haha yeah man!

What if someone instalock 76 first?

He'll play Arcade No-limits only. The new lolCA \o\

Don't like that soldier has become so meta, one of the most boring heroes to play

yea and one of the easiest too

*THE easiest one!

Well no, lucio and winston dont require any special abilities too. These three heros have in common that you only have to do one (simple) thing in order to do ok.

Soldier is easier for sure as he is a hitscan character with heal and helix rockets. It's just point and click. And his Ulti is an aimbot.

Lucio can atleast choose between speed and heal, climb walls and be a general pain in the butt.

It's just point and click. And his Ulti is an aimbot.

are you stupid or what ? If it's just point and click how comes you can't even reach 38% overall accuracy with it ? If it were so easy how comes your aim is disabled when you play him ?

aren't all the OW ultis easy to use ? As if lucio's ulti was hard to use, as if mccree instant kill ulti was hard to use, as if genji (NERF THIS OP CHARACTER BLIZZARD FFS) ulti wasn't rushing everyone mindlessly with 1 sword hit kill with 1 button press

heartless, the clown of esr.
you obviously haven't played mccree or genji. mccrees ult is pretty much useless unless he got ana boost or/and bubble from zarya. mccree is chosen because he got high dps. and genji is sitting duck vs mccrees frashbang and roadhogs hook, unless he got ana boost or bubble from zarya.

But ofc you don't know this stuff, as you only play soldier.

soldier is easy because it's just point and click, doesn't take much skills.

"If it's just point and click how comes you can't even reach 38% overall accuracy with it ?"

you mean you can't? One can easily get over 40% acc with soldier, doesn't take much skills.

everything that you said about zarya + genji combo, about mccree ultimate is basically only to buy time, about ana boost etc, you really think i didn't know that already ?

are you stupid or what ? I watched more streams than you'll ever do.

soldier is easy because it's just point and click, doesn't take much skills.

mccree is the same, reaper is the same, tracer is the same. Hitscans aim is the most consistent, less random, and hardest to master out of all the skills you have to master.

rockets/projectile weapons in general is prolly as hard to master yeah, but it's much less consistent and... MORE RANDOM!

"If it's just point and click how comes you can't even reach 38% overall accuracy with it ?"

you mean you can't? One can easily get over 40% acc with soldier, doesn't take much skills.

I have 46% overall acc with soldier. But we weren't talking about me, but YOU. I assume your hitscan aim is rather poor, that's why you're bitching about it.

hitscan just requieres as much skill than projectiles weapons, the only difference is that it's constent and less random.

It's hilarious. You were talking about me? lol, of course, man. And you know exactly how good aim I have?Or how much stream I watched? Yes, ofc :)

You assume this and that without having any proof what so ever. It must be good to be you. lol

I have much better understanding of the game as you only stick to that one character. So please stop trying to "teach" me about this game, as you are CLu3L3sS.

"are you stupid or what ? I watched more streams than you'll ever do."

Skills, lol.

And you know exactly how good aim I have?Or how much stream I watched? Yes, ofc :)

are you trying to hide it ? Ashamed much ?

I have much better understanding of the game as you only stick to that one character.

i said i basically watched all the possible streams to watch, from seagull to iddqd to tviq to cooller/cypher/rapha/carnage/nvc and ofc all the streams from major online Events or LAN Events.

I played like 45-55 hours of the game and even if it was mainly s76 only, you really think that i'm not aware of the other heroes abilities and how the meta works ? If i were blind and trying to play with 0 teamplay then yeah i would only know how s76 works. But since i watched plenty of streams (and ofc those with "professional comentators") and played enough of the game with teamplay in mind, ofc i know how this game you seem to love so much, works.

So please stop trying to "teach" me about this game, as you are CLu3L3sS.

it was you who tried to teach me about this game 1st, so i replied that i already know what you said and even much more.

"are you stupid or what ? If it's just point and click how comes you can't even reach 38% overall accuracy with it ? If it were so easy how comes your aim is disabled when you play him ?"

I think he got hacked

Winston requires a lot of ability, what do you mean Winston is one of the "easiest" heroes? That's entirely untrue, maybe if you're not even in Masters he's one of the easiest heroes in the game.

You ever watched Miro play Winston? He knows the jump range perfectly and always gets max damage in with it, he knows how to use the ult to scatter teams, he knows when to go in and when to use his shield, he knows how to dance around the shield, he's insane at delaying the points from the enemy until his team gets back.

Winston is just INSANE if you are good with him and you have a team who is able to work around you.

Did you read past the first sentence? I'll quote myself "These three heros have in common that you only have to do one (simple) thing in order to do ok"

Do you understand how that differs from what you are saying?

"These three heros have in common that you only have to do one (simple) thing in order to do ok"

s76 the easiest ? lol are you kidding me ? :D

yeah it's the easiest to play at low lvl maybe, and even with that, getting 45%+ accuracy with him actually requieres TRUE raw-aim.

all the other heroes are crap and boring to play, genji is OP, only maybe mccree can be interesting cause he got basically a mini-rail.

tracer is ok too, but close-range mg is retarded, in quake you would use rockets at close-range (or shotgun). And her teleport ability is retarded.

anyway retarded game overall but fun to play 1 hero only.

lol, clueless.

sry for hurting your feeling that OW is a very good replacement for quake.

i'll keep you being delusional.

For a guy that think 1v1 CA in a dead game is skills and only play Soldier in OW, I stand by my statement about you having no idea of what you are talking about.

Try playing some other characters and you might find that it takes more skills than CA.

Sorry, somebody had to say it.

For a guy that think 1v1 CA in a dead game is skills

1v1 AND 2v2. I'm not ONLY a 1v1 player anymore.

dead game, i agree with you.

not skill ? I don't agree. You wouldn't even win a round or to be more fair, a game, against me at 2v2 small CA, and you're still talking ?

What's wrong with 2v2 CA ? Nothing actually. It's just like you don't have to pacman/farm items ala WoW before starting a fight with your opponent(s) (yes my reference is from duel there).
1v1/2v2 CA is as simple as this :
- 10 secs count-down to get in position (and to get in pos it actually requieres minimum movements skills, unlike in OW where there isn't a single movement system ala vq3/cpm/pk/etc), and FIGHT. As simple as that.
Yes there's almost 0 strategy involved in 1v1/2v2 small CA, but who cares ? Does it have any real strategy in tennis ? NO! In boxing ? NO! In snowboarding, surfing, skiing and all those kind of sports ? NO!
It's the same for 1v1/2v2 CA, almost only raw-skills matters. It's VERY simple to understand but yet HARD to master.
If you think you can become a thunderstruck hero in a matter of months, you have no clue of what you're thinking. I challenge anyone here to beat me at thunder, my 10+ years dedication to it is because i just LOVE it and i play with my heart even tho i'm heartless :). I'm not switching games/gametypes because people just follow the masses and the hypes and ofc the money, i'm not a bitch nor a slave, i'm free.
You think thunder 2v2 requieres 0 skills, you say that only cause you got 0 personality and you're in your kind of elitist and sheep(cheap) mentality that makes you think that only quake duel and OW take skill(s), also because all your quake heroes are playing OW now. I'm not like that, i don't live based on other people opinions, noone is my idol, i play for MYSELF and i don't give a shit if some random nerdz that get paid millions is playing a supposedly "very strategical and deep" game, and on top of that, sold millions copies...
If i want a REAL strategy game i play either CHESS, starcraft or HoMM. I LOVE HoMM, i kinda like starcraft too, but i don't want these games to be my main games, i play them only for fun and i respect a lot the fact that there are lots of strategies possible and that it actually requieres THINKING before playing.
I'm actually not against strategy, as far as it's TRUE strategy (not like in OW or quake duel), i don't like "hybrid/mixed up genres/styles" type of games.
I play quake for the movements, aim and dodges, and for the weapons, that's all i love about quake. I don't care about pacman/items farming, running for 3min before starting a fight, "fake" strategies that make you feel like Einstein (LOL!). Wake up, your beloved quake duel and OW team play are nowhere near TRUE mathematics/ Einstein's theories etc etc...

So i repeat, i play quake for its movements, weapons, aim and dodges, the rest, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

only play Soldier in OW, I stand by my statement about you having no idea of what you are talking about.

How many times will i have to repeat myself ? I'm not judging overwatch based on my own skills, i'm judging it based on hours and hours of watching streams of the game, based on very skilled ow players opinions, etc. My own experience of the game actually comes last.

Try playing some other characters and you might find that it takes more skills than CA.

but i don't give a shit about the other characters, am i free to think that at least ? :>

let me summarize for you, as you seem a bit slow mentally :

- You want money ? "get a job" (c) dkt
- You want to quit quake ? "you don't quit a hobby" (c) ZeRo4
- You want a stragegy game ? "come play chess with us" (c) Garry Kasparov. OR GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN TRUE MATHEMATICS. Isn't it more appealing to be a mathematic nerd rather than an OW or LoL nerd ?
- You want to follow the hype ? Fair enough. But when the hype will die, what will happen to you ? Are you a lost sheep seeking for the flock or a wolf like heartlesss ?

raged

at least i give replies with more than 1 word or 1 sentence just like you always do

i have arguments and proofs to back up my claims

you probably never rage cause you don't have any reason to do it, because you're just a noname 1800elo duel player that only discovered ESR few times ago

you're nothing dude, and if you're trolling, or if you goal is to make people rage, then you fail at it miserably, sry dude

Yep, quite the opposite to you who likes to write MANY words and MANY sentences which sadly all turn out to be rather meager in content.

You say you have arguments and proofs to back up your claims? Then whats up with your replies when I asked you to give one (!) reason for your claim about s76?

"something that you won't never understand, sry m8"

and

"even if i did a wall of text you will still believe in your 1800elo duel opinion. cba talking with you tbh"

^ Those were your answers.

What you write reads like what highschool students write in their english tests when they dont really think about the topic but instead excersise their language. They repeat themselves constantly and they use filler words and sentences to distract from their empty answers.

The difference however is that highschool students are forced to give answers. Who is forcing you?

You say you have arguments and proofs to back up your claims? Then whats up with your replies when I asked you to give one (!) reason for your claim about s76?

"something that you won't never understand, sry m8"

and

"even if i did a wall of text you will still believe in your 1800elo duel opinion. cba talking with you tbh"

^ Those were your answers.

that was the only time i replied to you like that, actually i did exactly what you do 24626% of the time

What you write reads like what highschool students write in their english tests when they dont really think about the topic but instead excersise their language. They repeat themselves constantly and they use filler words and sentences to distract from their empty answers.

my empty answers ? Learn to read maybe.

;)

"i have arguments and proofs to back up my claims"

Lol, joke of the year! Please stop! :D

You're the joke here sry :)

Why dont you back up your core statement with at least one reason? Tell us, what is hard about playing soldier in "high lvl" ?

something that you won't never understand, sry m8

point proven :D

you want me to write a book again about why s76 is one of the hardest hero to master ? You really want it ?

even if i did a wall of text you will still believe in your 1800elo duel opinion.

cba talking with you tbh

taking a screenshot of this :D

"s76 is one of the hardest hero to master"

Oh no you didn't

most simple to understand, but yet one of the hardest to master

ahahahahahahaha

unranked high level, just like in quake

i didn't talk about me

learn to read

i talked about skilled/very skilled soldier76 ow players, and actually there's only a few of them out of 20M players

but anyway, even s76 has some retarded gameplay mechanics, like dmg fall off with distance, very high spread, reload time every 25 shots, not possible to spam it like the good old MG in quake at long range

fuck this game :>

Yeah! Stay the fuck away!

It's all about mercy boys.

soldier is ok as a support dps for junkrat.

I still think I saved money not buying OW.

and time, which is more valuable

... which he spends here. Oh no!

Well i dont think its a return investment kind of thing . . .

Doesn't matter if you're the best raw aimer in the world, the game always comes down to whatever team throws their 6 ultimates first.

Just stop playing the game already. I know you're addicted to that temporary high you get from shooting nerds, we all are or were at some point. Sadly, Overwatch will not satisfy that high no matter how many more hours you put in the game trying to find enjoyment out of it.

1. South-American guy using drug analogies
2. Quaker embarassing himself with his misconceptions about other FPS titles

Who can find more stereotypes ??

1- German cucked retard with his kollektivschuld defending a shitty game made for SJWs and Earth's degenerates.

2- Refugee loving retard stupid enough to think talking about the mesolimbic dopamine pathway is in any way an analogy about drugs.


Too easy, did you just come home from sharing your wife and daughters with the refugees?

The fact that you bring up stuff thats uncompletely unrelated to the topic tells me you are mad as fuck!

Damn, I really got you badly!

You are quite the creative one, arent you?

So you mirror my answer to highlight that I'm taking this to a personal level even tho you only ever replied with 4chan memes and half-assed insults yourself ?

Anyway, lets look back at your initial statement: "Doesn't matter if you're the best raw aimer in the world, the game always comes down to whatever team throws their 6 ultimates first."

Lemme know, does your pseudo-intellectuality mesh well with the belief that raw aim should be the key to a moba/fps hybrid game ?

" Lemme know, does your pseudo-intellectuality mesh well with the belief that raw aim should be the key to a moba/fps hybrid game ? "


What does this have to do with anything? I'm talking to the OP and the premise of his thread.

OP basically says "lol s76 cuz aim"

I basically said "lol OW is no aim"

And you're here sperging out like the typical eurotrash loser.

A mentally sane and functional member of society would have 0 need to type what you said to my first post.

English clearly isn't your first language and your reading comprehension is shit, your usage of "uncompletely" already told me you were retarded but I let that one slide at first. Go back to school.

who the fuck cares

first sane reply in this thread which is funny as its coming from zhu.

You better go play some hitscan CS:GO.

everybody knows csgo takes way more skill because bullets don't go where you aim

Exactly. I saw a forum post about Overwatch Open Beta on some major CS website. People whined that this is no skill game giving the argument that weapons there have NO RECOIL.

This applies to Quake as well though! I know MG has some, but this weapon is irrelevant anyway. I'm sorry for all of us who wasted half of the life playing no skill game :(

i know your post is ment to be an irony, but actually having the same spray pattern everytime in csgo makes it pretty skill heavy to aim. One could mechanically learn how to direct every single bullet to the target if he was skilled enough.

lol at that gif....
but it doesnt count because "lol random hitscan csgo funny skill no brain lolz spray pattern acc% strat lulz"... or that is what most people in this thread apprently think

Can you rephrase your comment? I'm not sure if I get it, but yes, spray patterns are not random. Each bullet has some spread depending on the weapon type, but in general there is a chance to learn how to put whole clip into someone's head on close range. It's extremely hard but it is possible.

However at the beginning it drives Quakers crazy, because even though you have aim skill you cannot transfer it fully to this game for a long period of time. Also rifles inaccuracy while moving is difficult to adapt to. It feels awkward that you can't even strafe 20 pixels to the left while shooting and keep your bullets where you're aiming. It's painful for Quakers but this is how the game was designed and needs to stay this way to remain Camper Strike.

if you refer to my #60 comment, its exacly what you are saying. I support the "cs actually requires skill to aim propertly, specially because not every bullet goes where you are aiming at" argument.

If you refer to my #59 comment, im just making fun of the quality of 99% of the posts in this particular thread really. Didnt ment to make any sense.