i forgot to upload the latest file before i submitted this post, so for the 3 people who may have looked at it so far, starting, stopping, and resetting the timer are now logged events.

updated index.html:

changing timer multiplier is now logged
all text should now be presented as lower-case

This is cool
but holy crap I feel rusty

trying at 2x speed or higher makes it a lot tougher.

True, but problem with it being to fast is it just turns into flashcards, which I can do just fine. Also its counter-productive to what your saying

"from keeping times in mind over time"

2x is probably best, also in the down time I cleared the history cause that helps you cheat :>

the history may be useful to less experienced people.

i think i'll add an old school filled circle reflex clicking type game to the background of this, and then implement a points system. this way, users can have some distraction while waiting for things to count down, and then have a way to make it more engaging.

it could be possible to have a leaderboard, too, but these things are all so susceptible to cheating that i think that's pointless.

yeah I wouldn't bother with leaderboard, the circle reflex clicking and points system is good, makes it feel less lonely :) Cool project, don't be rushed though, doubt many people will play with this

Wouldn't a slower speed be more ideal to the goal of this thing? That is retaining information over a length of time? The difficulty in a fast speed is more to do with processing and calculation speed.

I reckon there should be be added tasks to do in these timing training programs so you have to multitask. Part of the reason why retaining information in quake is so hard (at least for me) is many things are happening at the same time so you lose focus on the numbers.

yeah, i don't disagree with you, but just because what is most difficult about timing for me is keeping track of times while i'm distracted doesn't mean that the multiplier isn't useful or doesn't present its own unique benefits and difficulties.

as for the added tasks, see my post above. if my schedule is open at work tomorrow i'll implement that idea.

Oh ye adding speed is great too. For a weight training analogy it's like isolating different muscle groups that's all. Just would be good to have speeds less than x1 :P

Also it might be nice to design the other tasks I mentioned to be quake orientated. Maybe have it present you with different screenshots of different scenarios in duel and you have a multiple choice questions to choose what the best course of action is or what the best weapon choice is etc. Reading the questions and figuring out the answer is just enough of a distraction from so that remembering the item times is hard.

The scenarios thing would take a lot of work. Would need a fair bit of scenarios to not make it repetitive, and random generation would be quite tricky, 2 players actions don't slice up nicely into chunks to be turned based. 1 Player can travel the whole map while the other stares at mega. Possible in some capacity though just lots of time.

A missionred type reflex game or tracing game would be suitable for this scope though.

missionred was exactly what i had in mind when i thought of adding some reflex stuff.

Just a random idea, main point is having more things to do simultaneously with the item timing.

EDIT: Actually I guess u can have two windows open, one with the timing program and one with the mission red thing.

To easy to lose, at least with the version I'm thinking of. Would have to be a semi watered down version, that forgives missing.

:o I just said that

the concept i had for the scoring system i implemented is basically 'get as many points as you can', rather than punishing mistakes or inaccuracy. the end result is the same: the person who makes the least mistakes and performs the most accurate actions will have the higher score.

< 1 is a good idea. i'll add that to the todo. thanks.

wtf? you guys really have trouble timing? I learned perfect timing watching zotac ages ago

you can do it too, just watch faceit and time along with whatever item they pickup.


First learn the second number correlation.

0=5 1=6 2=7 3=8 4=9

That's always the case, so you instantly know what RA 39 will be #4 now you just have to figure out the first number.

Now just time each item twice. Time up and down.

What I mean is: RA 39 = 04. But what time was it that made it 39? It was 14.

So RA 39 has the uptime as 04 and downtime as 14. It just happens that every downtime is +10 of the uptime.

Why do this? It is a mental game that ensures that you learn the timings by heart, because the downtime will check the uptime for you.

RA 15 = Uptime 40 / downtime 50

For mega it is -10 on the uptime to get the downtime.

Mega 44 = Uptime 19 / downtime 9
Mega 34= uptime 9 / downtime 59

Timing just becomes automatic after a while.
It seems weird but really works.

(having automatic timing, lets you keep the time in your head longer)

You missed the point of this completely, the op can time instantly, he wants to practice retaining the information.

I put the times into picture format.

For mega I have a mermaid in a sphere of water holding a weird looking seashell clock.

For red armor I have Clifford the big red dog with the time shaved into his fur.


I almost never forget an item time. Some times I have trouble erasing the item times previously but i'm working on that.

Just picture the old mermaid, dried up and dying on the beach with seagulls pecking out her eyes, and the dog being euthanized for savaging a child.

i've added 'reflex' type point and click functionality and a basic point system. the main post has been updated to reflect the changes.

also updated the color scheme to something less obnoxious.

i've addressed all the items on my todo list. thanks for suggestions. i decided against implementing a time limit, it's just not worth adding that much complexity to such a simple and niche project. if anybody else has any suggestions, or if somebody spots some bug i didn't mercilessly crush, please let me know. thanks for the responses.

Until you have the timings memorized, for people who find the math hard to do while playing, I found it a lot easier to just picture an analogue clock in my head and move the second hand 35 seconds around. The clock is already divided into markers every 5 seconds, so it's pretty easy. Or....you could always just have a clock where you can see it. There's already a digital clock in-game, so it's hardly cheating. Besides, it shouldn't take much practicing before you don't have to do any math at all, then your brain is free to time another item. People who have been duelling for ages often act like they could time 4 items to the second from the day they installed the game, and treat newbs as if they are dumb. There seems to be a lot of snobbery in the duel community and the whole scene is very off-putting for new players. I'm not even going to join a live duel server until I can reliably time at least 3 items and know at least 3 of the most popular maps inside out