why don't you double track the guitars?

what do you mean?

For rhythm guitars its common to record two takes of the same part and hard pan them for a bigger sound

i see. i have trouble getting sounds to stand out when the guitar is overpowering. i do typically double track my vocals, though:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/album/03.mp3 (hard to believe this is almost 5 years old now)

Maybe try reducing the distortion for each track, you never need as much as you think you do

with my awful playing, every bit helps.

a good advice for processing sounds: always use half of what you initially thought was good :p

if you'd like, you ccould send me the seperate tracks as wav (or mp3 just to test it out) files and I'll try to make a better mix

sure, i'd love to see what you come up with. i had somebody tell me the same before, and the mix he came up with was pretty bad.

my outlook is: if it sounds good, keep it. so i think what i recorded sounds good, regardless of production trends, but i know i'm an awful producer.

would you like for me to post everything without effects? all of the effects are added through guitar rig, so i can give you clean samples.

that's a good advice up there. especially with high gain guitars it's good to go with less than 50% gain and get the chunk with mid section correction in the initial equalizer and a double take.

i'll try recording the guitars again with this in mind.

ye. also be careful with bass. it shouldn't be the main thrust of your guitars. that's what bass guitar is for. single guitar track will even sound flat and dull to you, but if u add a double take and bass guitar THEN it comes to life.

i can't test this atm, but it sounds to me that if i hard pan two rhythm guitar tracks left & right, i will gain a lot of space around the center for melodies. well, regardless of whether or not that's the case, you've got me thinking about it. so thanks.

That's exactly how its usually done. What are you using for drums?

i sequence drums in ableton live. i use the session drums pack. didn't use any effects or anything for this song.

sth: the solo guitar seems way off timingwise. maybe you want it tosound like that idk. rest of it was quite good

notepad: enjoyed this one a lot very nice riff. I like the atmosphere :)

thanks. not sure about the solo being off. i know i added a couple extra notes at the end so that it wouldn't end right on the beat. if that's what you mean, then yeah, it was intentional.

yea well it was just the first thing i noticed when i listened to it the first time like "man.. something is off there." Now way off is definately exaggerated. just slightly off

yeah, distortion is way too much, very tincan tinny thin and sharp, kind of ruins it.

i listened to 'smth' from the main post critically. i like the distortion. it sounds how i'd like for it to sound, except for the guitar being slightly out of tune on some parts. here is what i recorded today:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52181616/geethoven.mp3

whens the album drop?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/album/hi.zip

that was my first .;d

weekend project

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52181616/thingy.mp3

it's fun to make music!!!!111

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/no%20pad.mp3

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/drum.mp3

youtube or fuck off

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/gay%20rap.mp3

hs nice! you should make theme songs for every user here on esr :D

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/greymattel.mp3

SoundCloud or Fuck Off

no thanks.

Better distortion or Fuck Off

nope.jpg.exe

after a long hike: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/mu...%20men.mp3

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/580654/music/asdfasdfsdf.mp3

due to popular demand, here's another music!!!!!!1

brandan have you listened to Cosmosquad? i think you might like them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HehOaRhPrx0

sounds cool so far. like a slightly cheesier phish. not sure how you made the leap from the music i put here and this band, though? :D

man, i will be honest, i kinda play music and "live" music since i was a little kid, i have played guitar, electric guitar and i was a DJ too. I've listened from Metallica to nowadays Snarcky Puppy or some classic song or even music from the balkans near de middle-east. I've just listened to the first track that you put in here for us to listen, so after I've listened to it i guessed that you could get some experience by listening to Cosmosquad or even tho some songs of Rush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9LcoLp6kXo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc

i hope you enjoy !

btw there are some bands from brazil that not many people around the world know, just tell me if you are interested on listening then i post something here for you to follow the tracks. :)

well, thanks for the suggestion. i've recently been trying to add more intricacies to my guitar playing, so it's good to hear this stuff.

i used to listen to a band called un festin sagital, which now apparently they're in chile, but they started in brazil afaik. otherwise my brazillian music is limited to baden powell and vinicius de moraes. i'm interested in any suggestions you have.

here is some Yamandu Costa (TOP LEGEND HAHA):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOBLPoThpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9DXGLrqDYg

I have to tell you this: i used to work in a place where they used to sell CDs over there, so once came this guy that was from a CEO of a big university in here in brazil, so he wanted to give to his friend from Sweden a CD, i said: take this one, he`ll never find it anywhere in the world except in Brazil. So I gave to him: Dominguinhos and Yamandu Costa. :D

man i wish you could come to Northeast of Brazil, Im from Pernambuco, same state that Dominguinhos and Luiz Gonzaga have born, we have influence in many labels in Brazilian music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E0EJLRkysM

this is a song from a heavy metal band from here called Angra:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW9O0U3JyYE

this one is from a hard rock metal band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrsEadC4_I0

this one is from a progressive rock band called Calix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tje_xLH7EwM

this one from Master Hermeto Pascoal(honestly looks like Frank Zappa with Northeast of Brazil instruments and folk haha):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821bgUU_mY

btw i enjoyed the balkan beat box until the vocal samples started, but the snarky puppy song is very nice so far. funky without being cheesy, and i love the bass; punchy and fuzzy. thanks.

reminds me of live/evil miles davis, or even some kobaia era magma.

if you know more about jazz please tell me some songs to listen, i just love jazz fusion nowadays, i want so much to save some money.. buy a keyboard and play jazz! hahahaa btw, look at this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_CHWP1aqJU (but his one is not fusion)

sounds like the pianist got all his inspiration from thelonious monk. did you ever listen to django reinhardt?

also, one of the better transitions from a jazz 'legend' to funk/fusion was head hunters by herbie hancock. i think you'll like this, based on the snarky puppy you linked.

i know about hancock and thelonious, but i`ll take a look on Django hahaha never heard this band before!

what about Vital Tech Tones and ah, i forgot a banjo man guitarrist so awesome, bella fleck i think :)

have you listened to Return of Forever? many good artists played in this project band by Chick Corea

*wow man, this django reinhardt is great, never listened before!

i went through a phase of listening to a lot of stuff like vital tech tones, but it's not really interesting to me anymore. the same can be said for a lot of jazz. it's all very sterile and safe, even though it's technically and musically admirable.

i'm surprised by how many guitarists don't know of django reinhardt. he has such a cool style. it's easy to get bored/annoyed by the similarity of all his music, but little bits at a time are really enjoyable.

i think i maybe listened to return to forever, but a lot of stuff i listen to for a week or a month, and then forget about. :D

i will try to remember all the stuff that i already have had before, i had the same feeling about fusion by what you have mentioned, i had the same. i will try to find for you at first brazilian music, is very rich, so rich that some stuff i need to recall on my brain, very deep to came up with and show you that!

beware :D

brandan do you like progressive rock?

yeah, i like some progressive. it just depends on the style. it's a pretty broad genre now.

brandan, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmEhCDRvQKA

:0

it's always amazing to watch somebody good with drum pads putting samples together. have you seen anybody use ableton push?

wow, no this is the first time, amazing! i have downloaded the ableton to make music! but i haven't seen ableton push before! nice!

bet that guy raped at international track and field.

i got really impressed when i saw him playing at first time, for real. i don't know if music is transcending from common instruments into electronic around the world, but definitely this guy has showed that we need to reshape our understanding of e-music into standard schools.

don't you think?

It's pretty insulting to even imply that something fronted by teenage trend shitting sounds (dubsteb) could be replacing normal music though. Until people can hear something that isn't a circlejerk of bullshit when asking for an electronic music recommendations, good luck.

that is your opinion and based on nothing as i see, just do not close your mind to something that is new and it is evident that other electronics apparatus will reshape some instruments. your arrogance blinds you.

i think i have to say, good luck.

I'm fully open to the possibility of meshing electronic and classic music well, I've heard some things I liked, just not much.

My point was that too much of electronic music is garbage. Not just the normal "mainstream of genre X is shit, listen to the good artists before forming your opinion" amount. It feels like so much of it is drowning in a cesspool of newfound sounds they enjoy repeating over and over, like how many artists abuse that shit and do nothing else? They enjoy that too much to produce anything genre value for the next ten years it feels.

It makes sense that electronics should expand and supplement genres, the problem is that I'm seeing none of that and all of wub wub wub.

ok now i could see your point of view, and just like to add a point that you mentioned a bit: "they repeat the same thing and record it(i just shortcut it)", well i agree but there is another point of view, like classic electronic music has its base, its roots. so if you follow a path of a style in electronic music you might repeat the kick and the drums probably, the "base" of it. so i kinda agree but there is a point that e-music in general is for dancing too so it is harsh to think about it in another way.

wow, that guy would rape at starcraft

hahahahahahah definitely!

Nobody rocks the drum pads like Jeremy Ellis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFlFxJFnfY

I've yet to see a guitarist better than Oziel come out of Brazil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkx9_lByxrg

loved this comment on the ellis video:

NewspeakRasta
5 days ago

He's no Jel... 

and jel is no dosh. ;d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVMwArreXos

Listened through a third of this song and I almost thought they got over their shit together, but again comes the chorus with no essence at all. Man, I wish they'd at least do half cheesy songs and half of those instrumentals, I'd enjoy half and throw half away, but this is such a tease.

when you listen to a song you like it because this got you emotion.

I'm sorry, can you clarify what you mean?

usually when you like a song it is because it excites you, according to some philosophers

deep stuff

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52181616/billshitner.mp3

thanks for u'r cont'd support esr

i gave in and created a soundcloud account:

https://soundcloud.com/uepuejq/open-windows

Nice stuff! The end was great. Just wish the vocals were deeper, and the guitar from 2:15-3 was a bit louder and deeper too. Could be a nice doom/stoner track :)

thanks. i made a lot of progress on the guitar sounds in this song compared to older songs, but you're right, there's a lot that can be done here. listening to this in the car and with speakers has given me some ideas. the bass overpowers the electric guitar, for sure.

i remixed the guitar/bass/vocals and fixed some things that sounded off in it. think it sounds a lot better with the new mix.