Decent map pool for a change, I approve.

read : no dm20

Read: no dm6 retardation and instead inclusion of "new" maps (Terminatria and Tornado) even if bound to be dropped.

what is this shit with tornado

well, atleast we can drop it

better than terminus!

well, its still shit though

it's not campgrounds I give you that

I wanna play this :0. A day I can probs make as well!

Stream yourself if you do and if it's among your possibilities please!

Hope someone streams this.

I find it harder and harder to procrastinate without daily Zoot streams to watch.

First world problems :)

indeed :D

Ospdm5 and dm14 <3

Drop the rest

drop purg... add dm7

Terminatria and Tornado.

Yeah...

sweet

huray for tdm! let lvl^ awaken!!

Wot wot!

will you guys cast??

Yes

o/

Same day as QuakeSM playoffs btw.

No Swedes are good at TDM anyway!

#shotsfired

What does "ONW" mean?

I found "omit needless words" definition, how ironic ;)

Myself and for will stream this. I will be working on our new look stream elements and aiming to look MINT!

You and who? You replaced me with someone who has a name suspiciously similar to mine?

iMac got me!

YES

my good pal vhore

wont have a team for this :|

FRS dont like good old osp6 he didnt like tornado even and i think all other maps. One should say he has only like 2 favorite maps and others are shit and his opinion is the right one . GG !!

i like how you see things .

where did you get that idea? you list 2 of the 3 maps i dont like and it means i dislike all maps? rofl. cant even say i dislike osp6 even that much

Please force all players to use clan tags.

only 3 teams registered?--

create/join mixes for today's tdm cup: hang on #esh.mixes

hope we get some more signups!

usually, most signups happen at checkins, so expect more then it already is.

Please stream with Youtube. Since the lagfix plugin for twitch is not working anymore it is horrible for EU users to watch twitch streams :(

no lag ever since i started to use livestreamer. kinda sad the streamer doesnt get ad revenue nor even viewcounts that way, but if the alternative is not watching at all due to shitty websolutions & flash - so be it.

tdm ftw

doubt that a team with vium and guismo can win anything that ain't a round of clan arena.

edit: oh yeah, guismo 2stupid4quadrun. not that zlc did much better tho, father cas domination.

You realise Vium is a very experienced tdmer with a very good skillset?

yes, when it comes to clan arena.

LevelUpTV <3
Best casters ever!

indeed, they pown.

DIS + VOR = wow fuck, now THIS is casting

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why did 102 not have their actual lineup ?

Can't believe Dis has so many false beliefs about food and dietary matters. Thought he was smarter than that.

He claims he's done "research" but it looks more like he has been reading some pill peddler sites. That does not qualify as "research" don't you know.

Just going to the wikipedia page for vitamin d: not a single benefit is listed.

Vitamin supplements in general are pointless. (As long as you have a more or less normal diet. "Scurvy was at one time common among sailors, pirates and others aboard ships at sea longer than perishable fruits and vegetables could be stored - subsisting instead only on cured and salted meats and dried grains")

"several large studies have shown the futility of taking vitamin and mineral supplements on a daily basis"
from: http://www.skepdic.com/skeptimedia/skeptimedia113.html

About vegetarianism. One: Humans are not carnivores, they are omnivores. Learn the difference. Two: it's perfectly possible to have a perfectly healthy vegetarian diet. Do some real research. (Although it's also possible to have a healthy diet that includes meat. But too much meat is probably unhealthy, just like all extremes are. There are a lot of extreme diets, usually promoted to lose weight, that are unhealthy if not downright dangerous.)

Don't take any then dickhead.

>>> Don't take any then dickhead.

Are you trying to tell me that you were seriously offended by that comment? Jeez.

What indicates that I'm offended? Your post was a load of shit and you seem like you're wasting your time, so to help you out I've suggested a course of action you can take by saying "don't take any then dickhead". If anything you should be thanking me.

Maybe give a counterargument?
But all you seem to be capable of is insults apparently.
Whatever man. Have a nice day.

Humans are herbivores.

Sources: body traits, digestive system structure

Why are you posting as Anonymous?

"reading some pill peddler sites" then you link to that site...

Anyway I am happy with my choices and know the positive effect it has had on me. We can agree to disagree and I am sure you are happy and healthy without popping pills.

Quake is the real drug right??

>>> "reading some pill peddler sites" then you link to that site...

??? I linked to a skeptic site. They debunk commonly held myths, pseudoscience etc.
Another example on 'supplements: vitamins, minerals, herbs, & "natural" products': http://www.skepdic.com/vitacon.html

You are so lucky to have a site that gives you the answers to everything, thanks for sharing it with us.

You suggest the information I have read is based on an agenda of selling more supplements. Do you think the author of that website has anything to sell?

They sell books on critical thinking. It's just one of many skeptic sites I happen to stumble upon. There are skeptic sites that don't sell anything. In any case, if your argument is that them having books for sale means they can't be trusted, it implies websites that sell supplements can't be trusted either. I guess that's a stalemate, I'll give you that.

Skeptic websites check the scientific literature to look for evidence as opposed to wishy-washy hand waving pseudo-scientific claims for whatever it is many pill pushers want to sell you. That's the main difference.

But believe whatever you want to believe. I have no vested interest in any of this, neither do I have a personal beef with you guys. I'm just pointing out an alternative. I'll admit my first comment on this might have been a bit too aggressive, my apologies for that.

There are many studies that say supplements really help, and many that say they don't. However we do need these nutrients in order to function. The argument then comes down how much.

Use critical thinking to evaluate each study yourself. How controlled are the conditions really? If you trust these sites then by all means follow their mantra, but I think you might get a better view looking at both sides of the argument.

"So you've got the experience of zlc nightops and vium and an up-and-coming player larslarslars" (c) vor

LOL ;)

It's not like he has any QL TDM pedigree compared to the other three.

You know that's brescia, right?

Yeah?

I think he's trying to say that bresica's Q3 TDM experience should not be neglected when talking about his QL TDM skills.

Also, he has been playing QL TDM for lemmings effect for 2+ years and lemmings effect has been a top5 to top3 team for quite a while, afaik.

Hence, it's kinda misleading to call brescia up-and-coming.

I corrected calling him up-and-coming almost immediately, not regularly covering Quake makes you forget the details of every player having 500 different aliases that they like to randomly cycle through. If people want to obsess over mistakes like that then they're welcome to waste their time doing so.

I still don't think his achievements compare to those of his team mates, that isn't a knock on him, it's more in praise of what the others have achieved. You're obviously entitled to your opinion on that issue.

That's all perfectly fine, thanks for the explanation.

If you had written something like this to begin with, instead of some much too absolute and provocative statements like "he hasn't got any QL TDM pedigree" and "Yeah?", this whole confusion wouldn't have evolved. I guess my friendly avice would be: If you comment here, it's only worth it if you spend 2 minutes on actually explaining yourself instead of posting a provocative one-liner.

Ultimately, it's the well-articulated arguments and discussions that people love about levelup (and if they are sarcastic and/or controversial, that's a bonus, but not enough on its own).

Yet gienon is fine to comment on something vor said but not in its entirety?

Nope, that's a very rude thing to do. I didn't think this needed to be pointed out.

Given that not everyone reading gienon's post knows that he's somewhat misquoting vor, it would have been a wise thing if vor had explained the (mis)quote from the beginning.

This is turning out be a lot of fuss about very little ...

god, how i missed you lvl^ guys <3

p.s. stream overlay / design $$

love the levelup duo of vor and dis, excellent commentary during games and brilliant banter between the games.. mostly on topic too! <3

All vods in a playlist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQubzoPB3M&am...G2pxIFYkHd