.

http://qldhs.tourney.cc/1/brackets/ was that the DH u played as a pro? :D

A cheater complaining that things are unfair? Is this real life?

zeroql was unbanned

he made some proper vids!

pavel was unbanned

not banned due to cheating, but he did circumvent his previous ban (which annihuluzzz is still banned for)

Even zhu haters have to admit that he's right about zeroql.
Syncerror needs to either unban zhu or ban zeroql again.
No reason whatsoever that zeroql, who helped develop cheats, got unbanned when zhu is still banned.

zeroql is a cool guy, with video stuff skills and whatnot, zhu's a spoiled swe fag. rage more esr-ers:D

You almost sound like you use early version of the cheat he helped to be developed. XD

You know the saying about referees penalizing stars? Unbanning zhu would be the second mistake.

But what about detlew?

Previously on The Zhu Diaries

Can't wait for the next episode!

There is no hope so get over it and move on.

ouch gg

Its funny you're willing to overlook selective and corrupt administration when its against someone you do not like, but complain like crazy when its against neutral people who do not bother you.

It just goes to show how little you stand for in life, that my presence alone can make your thought value so selective.

That's real power.

are you implying that my decision to nuke your post was provoked by bias?

Who knows Brandon, maybe you were bored, maybe its a power struggle, maybe you just identiy with him and feel sorry for him and want to protect him?

wow jamerio, get a life

Its nearly 01:30 in the morning where you are, and you're on a gaming forum telling someone to get a life?

Snigger.

P.S.
I know you don't like it when I come out with better answers, so you try and divert it. Your dynamic values and integrity amuse me greatly.

I know it's a random comment to reply to, I just have to get something out.

Jamerio you really baffle me every time you post those quite random insults that's not really insults at all. They are more a grim look into your seriously twisted mind, and i can't really get my head around why you have to discuss really unimportant things with various users. I know some ppl here find it amusing, and at most, they laugh their ass off of screen, I'm not one of them though, I DONT get the funny part of your comments other than you being a totally deluded individual who fights with strangers online and gets something out of it.

narcissistic supply maybe? who knows.

Don't mind me though, i just had to reply to you some time as i've tried many times to make sense of some of your weird ass mouth diarrhea. :)

what was the intent of your original post?

To make fun of someone who deserves to be made fun of?

My motitves and clear and quite simple, well established and acceptable within what goes on a 100 times a day on this website and has done for over 10 years.

Its you that jeopardized this websites core asset of free speech with inconsistent and selective administration which is not consistent with other readers or similar topics.

The second you start abusing your admin powers to obtain the outcomes you can't with the tools the rest of us have to work with, and the rules of the site its game over really.

I can take way more joy in exposing that than any resentment I'm supposed to feel from having my posts unfairly nuked.

i appreciate your concern for the fairness and consistency of content moderation on esreality, jamerio. it's touching and reassuring to find that somebody else is driven by a passion for maintaining the openness of esreality forums.

i also recognize that seeing that a post you've made has been moderated can be irksome, especially when the moderation does not adhere to your expectations for the behavior of the site's administration. it pains me to see that the emotional impact of this particular moderation has instigated and reinforced such an extremely negative response from you.

however, your arguments are based on premises that are less in line with esreality and the guidelines by which esreality admins' decisions are directed, and more in line with your personal desires for the behavior of the site. it is unfortunate when such conflicts arise, especially due to how the personal nature of your desires impacts your capacity for objectivity.

please spend some time reviewing the site guidelines. the particular page i linked describes the behavioral qualities admins should observe, and, as such, outlines the general philosophy behind esreality's administrative privileges. hopefully this will help to alleviate any future burden stemming from your misconception of the operational properties the esreality user hierarchy.

thanks. :)

ouch gg

In this very thread alone you have allowed the following to remain..

"Farewell, fucktard."
http://esreality.com/post/2493290/re-my-run-is-over/#pid2493290

"Zhu is such a blatant faggot."
http://esreality.com/post/2493288/re-my-run-is-over/#pid2493288

In the other thread you have allowed..

"THE BITCH GAVE YOU HERPES!!"
http://esreality.com/post/2490639/re-zhu-vlog...pid2490639

But based on those guidelines (you posted), I see it as my duty to ensure they are enforced, and as an avid reader of the site, I'll be more than happy to flag up every post I come across that breaks these rules with an image.

That way, because the image needs to be approved, it will ensure that an admin will never fail to see it as I see no report button.

And who knows, maybe other people can join in too as I can't get everyone?

Please let me know your thoughts in HELPING to enforce the rules which I don't mean to be rude, you've been shown as unable to keep on top of on a consistent and fair basis which contradicts your initial claim of such a thing being important to you.

But based on those rules (you posted), I see it as my duty to ensure they are enforced

from the third paragraph of the page i linked in the site guidelines:

The second most important rule is to not treat this site as work.

please note that the word 'enforce' shows up nowhere in the guidelines. being an administrator is not my job. i have no duty to uphold, nor to enforce, any rules or regulations or anything else. i don't have to paint black lines under my eyes and slap myself in the face a few times to prepare myself for the monumental task of monitoring as many user submissions as humanly possible for any potential violation of any potential rule (edit: and the fact that you demonstrate a sense of obligation to do so demonstrates your lacking understanding of the philosophy of this site. i think that you have mistaken the administration's general indifference toward your participation on this site as official esr site approval of the content of your posts.)

story time:

the police officer and the drug dealer by brandan glendenning

imagine there is a police officer patrolling some streets. the police officer notices a man selling drugs on the street. there are drugs throughout the neighborhood, and other drug deals going on, some in the streets, others in buildings or under some other form of cover. this police officer, walking his usual beat, only happens to notice this particular drug dealer because, unlike the other drug dealers, this drug dealer has hung out a sign that says 'i am a drug dealer, please come buy drugs from me.'

the police officer confronts the drug dealer, removes the sign, and informs the drug dealer that dealing drugs this way on the street is not only illegal, but also a bit awkward for everybody who just wants to use the street; the sort of people who can walk by any random drug deal and ignore it, because there's typically no sign involved; it's subtle. it's respectful. the drug dealers, instead of flaunting their dealings and disrupting day to day business with flashy signs, recognize that it's easier to get along if they represent themselves appropriately for the venue in which they choose to peddle their wares.

the police officer has no interest in arresting the drug dealer. it's a petty crime, and he's learned through experience that arrests are only necessary when problems can't be solved through communication and empathy.

however, without even the threat of arrest, the drug dealer begins to inform the police officer of the police officer's duties. it's not fair, the drug dealer claims, that i should be selectively addressed as a drug dealer, when there are so many drug deals occurring right now! here any other drug dealer might stop, recognizing the common wisdom that helps social structure maintain overall fluidity: snitches is bitches.

however, this particular drug dealer gives no credence to such a crede. he points out every act of drug dealing within a mile radius of where he is currently standing, and then demands that if the police officer is going to hassle him about his drug dealing, then he should certainly hassle the others. it's only fair.

now everybody around knows that this particular drug dealer can no longer be trusted to stay cool under pressure. they see that at the first sign of trouble, not even arrest or imprisonment, just having a sign taken down, that this drug dealer will inform on every other drug dealer doing business, even though they were all behaving appropriately, conducting their deals without much fuss or flair.

now this drug dealer has lost respect of both the local authority figure and his peers, isolating himself from society, all because he could not take responsibility for his inappropriate behavior, then accept that the consequences of his inappropriate behavior being addressed by the police officer were harmless and minimal and move on.

the end

I don't understand your story, I was simply pointing out that your admin duties appear to be selective and inconsistent with the rules of this site.

But based on the guidelines you posted to justify your actions, I spotted this...

"The most important rule about being an admin on ESReality, is that it does not make you more important than other readers. Admins must not use or abuse their access to the site for personal reasons. If moderating a certain thread puts you in that position then simply don't do it - leave the moderation to someone else."

Given you've allowed the following posts to remain intact...

http://esreality.com/post/2493290/re-my-run-is-over/#pid2493290
http://esreality.com/post/2493288/re-my-run-is-over/#pid2493288
http://esreality.com/post/2490639/re-zhu-vlog...pid2490639

Which..

A) Breach the posting guidelines.
B) Are as bad, if not worse than my post.

I can only assume that based on your selective nuking and previous posts of trying to support the user I was making fun of, that you have acted in a way which has breached the posting guidelines which clearly define admins as much as users.
By not following them, you set a dangerous precedent which is bigger than any personal gripe, or soft spot you may or may not have.

As the guidelines state...

"If moderating a certain thread puts you in that position then simply don't do it - leave the moderation to someone else."

BTW:
Here are some things you said in support of the user I mocked...

"zhu has a good personality for this community" -Brandan

"i made the decision to elevate zhu's user level on esr recently." -Brandan

"i believe it is in the interests of the ql team to instate a moratorium on zhu's ban until dreamhack is concluded." -Brandan

Now, if you say that about him.
Allow other users mocking him to go Un-Nuked.
And nuke my posts.

I fail to see (by your own doing) how I could ever reach any other conclusion about your bias towards me,which I think is bad for the site and other admins.

the end from me too.

i don't know how i can speak any more clearly. at this point, to respond to your accusations and assumptions, i am forced to repeat myself.

i am not a staff member of esreality. i have zero responsibilities as an administrator. the tasks that i do take on are taken on of my own accord. the posting guidelines explicitely state that users with admin privileges should use the site as they would without admin privileges, but should feel free to moderate posts if the posts are inappropriate based on the guidelines.

you posted a picture of a user with a circle over an open sore on that user's face, and made a comment about the user having herpes. that sort of content is inappropriate for esreality, regardless of how many posts you can dig up that are also inappropriate for esreality. whether or not another post exists that is inappropriate for esreality has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not, in my day to day usage of esreality, i nuke an inappropriate post. i looked at this thread, saw a new and inappropriate post, and i nuked it. i hadn't seen any of the other posts until you snitched on them in order to justify your...contribution to this site.

there is nothing in the user guidelines that states that users may occasionally post inappropriate content if that user can link to other inappropriate posts. the greatest social precedent that's relevant to anything you're saying is "don't tattle".

stop tattling, jamerio. be a big boy.

"i am not a staff member of esreality. i have zero responsibilities as an administrator. the tasks that i do take on are taken on of my own accord."

That's one of the most contradicting things I have had the displeasure of reading. It sounds like a license to behave how you want, on the one hand you're saying you have no obligation, on the other you say you take the rest on your own accord. Which basically means you choose as and when to take responsibility for something, and relinquish it when you do and you wonder why I think what I do.
If you involve yourself in the nuking of posts, you are accountable for the issues of them.

"you posted a picture of a user with a circle over an open sore on that user's face, and made a comment about the user having herpes. that sort of content is inappropriate for esreality"

FACT 1: The picture was from a video of the user which HE posted here.

FACT 2: He did have a cold core.

FACT:3 Cold Sores result are a result of the Herres simplex virus.

You've just admitted to nuking my post based on nothing more than the truth. OH MY GOD. I took a screen shot of a video someone posted himself, put a circle around it, and made a factual observation.
Gee that's not never been done here has it, yet its exposed a massive hole in the admins rules on this so called tolerant and liberal site.

I didn't LIE. I didn't post anything he had not posted here.
I didn't even say anything that had not already been said, and which you had seen elsewhere.

I realise me posting links exposing your inconsistent administration duties would cause you to try and undermine them in some child like way, by accusing me of telling tales, but this is a classic case of you being unaware of the symptoms to your problem.

Lastly, in relation to your claims that you had not seen the other posts, I have linked to them several times and they still remain.

In the other threads your comments were also directly below and made AFTER the original post regarding herpes.

http://www.imagesup.net/?di=0138196422115

I have to endure some weirdo posting videos of himself on a gaming site, but I can't comment on them!

If that's not admin abuse I don't know what is...

That's one of the most contradicting things I have had the displeasure of reading. It sounds like a license to behave how you want, on the one hand you're saying you have no obligation, on the other you say you take the rest on your own accord. Which basically means you choose as and when to take responsibility for something, and relinquish it when you do and you wonder why I think what I do.

it's not contradicting at all, and it isn't a license to behave how i want. there is no one hand or the other. i have no obligation to perform any duties for esreality, but i have demonstrated enough trustworthiness and desire to contribute to the site that i'm given privileges to put my ideas into action. it is really that simple. there are no contracts or forms, nor swearing of oaths. i take full responsibility for nuking your post, and have never claimed otherwise, and have even spent lots of time crafting thoughtful, reasonable responses to your increasingly exotic claims.

FACT 1: The picture was from a video of the user which HE posted here.

FACT 2: He did have a cold core.

FACT:3 Cold Sores result are a result of the Herres simplex virus.

You've just admitted to nuking my post based on nothing more than the truth. OH MY GOD. I took a screen shot of a video someone posted himself, put a circle around it, and made a factual observation.
Gee that's not never been done here has it, yet its exposed a massive hole in the admins rules on this so called tolerant and liberal site.

FACT 1: you take a shit every day
FACT 2: there are pictures of people taking shits on the internet
FACT 3: there are pictures of your face on the internet

if i post a picture of somebody taking a shit with your face pasted on the body, i'm only telling the truth about jamerio. he shits, that's the truth, so there's no reason to nuke that content. it's true, therefore it's appropriate? if i'm at the funeral of a child rapist, and only his mother is there, is me shoving a picture of her son in prison being ass fucked appropriate? it may be true.

your fact list is just a collection of unproved premises, anyway, and there's no reliable way for us to establish the veracity of your claims. a blurry splotch on a person's lip in a black and white youtube video is not tantamount to a clinical diagnosis, dr. jamerio.

You've just admitted to nuking my post based on nothing more than the truth. OH MY GOD. I took a screen shot of a video someone posted himself, put a circle around it, and made a factual observation.

i didn't nuke the post because you exposed the truth, i nuked the post because it was inappropriate for the site. what i think you're trying to say, but it's somehow being scrambled when you express yourself, is that you think that's why i nuked it, because you were capable of stringing together a series of causal premises rooted solely in your imagination.

I didn't LIE. I didn't post anything he had not posted here.
I didn't even say anything that had not already been said, and which you had seen elsewhere.

nobody has accused you of lying, jamerio. i don't know how you use esreality, but i don't read very many of the comments. showing a screenshot of my post below somebody insulting zhu only shows just how oblivious i am to the site. my assumption is that a user with such antagonistic tendencies as yourself would be grateful that admins aren't militant enforcers of, well, nothing, really, because there isn't much in writing that militant enforcers of esr would have to enforce!

I have to endure some weirdo posting videos of himself on a gaming site, but I can't comment on them!

you obviously can comment on them, as we have had a very long discussion within this thread.

If that's not admin abuse I don't know what is...

it wasn't admin abuse. interpret that how you will.

to give some context to your proclamations of your alleged degradation of this site being due to my awful administration, i have nuked 2 of your posts, deleted none, approved 20 of them (when you were on probation), and approved 8 of the files that you uploaded. these are real numbers. i have done more to support your participation in this site than to prevent it, and each time i have nuked a post of yours, i have given you the respect of thoughtful discussion to indicate how and why i did so, without a single thanks from you.

to give you some context as to how the amount of your posts i've nuked compares to my general nuking stats, the ratio of my own posts that i have nuked to posts of yours that i have nuked is 3:1.

there is nothing wrong with this site or nuking abusive posts. you apparently don't realize that just because zhu is a cheater, or because you don't like him and perceive that others don't like him, does not mean that it's acceptable for you to be abusive. the truth is that somebody like zhu wants people like you to talk about him, but what zhu wants and what you want and what is appropriate for esr are totally separate issues.

i understand that abusive people have habits of justifying their behavior by blaming others and excusing their abuse as humor, and i understand that for abusive people it's difficult to refrain from doling out abuse when there appears to be a group...beating you to the punch, if you will. i empathize with your need to inflict psychological damage upon people using the internet, jamerio, and i don't even personally object to it. it's just that esreality is not the place for you to be abusive.

don't beat your wife at the grocery store. save it for the house.

There is no record on this site for admins who approve anything on this site for users without enhanced privs. I.E. myself.

That means when my images are approved (I have no idea who approved them).

That means when my posts are approved while on Probation, I have no idea who posted them, because there is NOTHING in the functionality of the site which shows this to those without elevated privs.

The only record that exists in relation to an admin having control over me is the Nuked by brandan message that appears, so implying my persona is take take take, and not giving you 'credit' for something I could never know when in fact the feedback offered by this website only relates to the admin who nuked your posts against seems very flawed.

Interesting Fact

I have made over 20k of posts on this site over 10 years and you say you nuked two of them, and both of them were about ZHU and have taken place within the last 6 weeks!

And you;'ve written a glowing review of him, unprobated him, and tried to get his ban in quakelive taken off for DH.

Is there something we should know Brandan?

Or is this just a coincidence?

and each time i have nuked a post of yours, i have given you the respect of thoughtful discussion to indicate how and why i did so, without a single thanks from you.

as far as your admission of ignorance to the mechanical details of esreality's operation, you are correct: you have no way of knowing just how much i have done to enable your participation in this site, so it's just that much more painful to be on the receiving end of your ignorant and abusive tirade. :(

LOL I totally missed that!

So not only do you nuke my more than acceptable post because its against someone you've clearly taken under your wing, but I'm supposed to be grateful for allowing me to talk about it!!

You say you've nuked two of my posts, yet I have made over 20k of posts in over 10 years, yet the only two posts you ever nuked of mine were BOTH against ZHU in the last six weeks. A user who you recently also wrote a glowing report about.

Lets have it right Brandan.

I posted a picture of a screen grab of a video HE posted.
I drew a circle on his lip.
I said he had herpes, in relation to his cold visible saw, which as you can see is factual http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Cold-sore/Pages/Introduction.aspx

I didn't raid his hard drive for the image.
I didn't alter the image.
I didn't stalk him outside of ESR.
I didn't lie about what I said.
The image would not even have get banned on a children's website.

Yet it was enough to topple the mighty ESR?

People will start to talk if you're not careful!

LOL I totally missed that!

So not only do you nuke my more than acceptable post because its against someone you've clearly taken under your wing, but I'm supposed to be grateful for allowing me to talk about it!!

You say you've nuked two of my posts, yet I have made over 20k of posts in over 10 years, yet the only two posts you ever nuked of mine were BOTH against ZHU in the last six weeks. A user who you recently also wrote a glowing report about.

i have not allowed you to talk about anything, nor asked you to be grateful for anything. i haven't taken zhu under my wing. i haven't nuked any but the 2 posts from the past 10 years, because i've never had a reason to. for some reason, when zhu posts about things, you respond with inappropriate, vividly violent, mean-spirited images.

Lets have it right Brandan.

I posted a picture of a screen grab of a video HE posted.
I drew a circle on his lip.
I said he had herpes, in relation to his cold visible saw, which as you can see is factual http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Cold-sore/Pages/Introduction.aspx

I didn't raid his hard drive for the image.
I didn't alter the image.
I didn't stalk him outside of ESR.
I didn't lie about what I said.
The image would not even have get banned on a children's website.

we've discussed this pretty thoroughly.

Yet it was enough to topple the mighty ESR?

i think your metaphor is a bit of a hyperbole.

People will start to talk if you're not careful!

about what?

Look like song lyrics.

if only there were somebody with recording equipment who could put them to music...

Memento_Mori, have at it!

i have not allowed you to talk about anything, nor asked you to be grateful for anything.

Excuse me...

"and each time i have nuked a post of yours, i have given you the respect of thoughtful discussion to indicate how and why i did so, >without a single thanks from you.<" -Brandan

I think that clearly shows you were expecting something from me along the lines of being grateful with that statement, which was hilarious as there was nothing nuke worthy about my image.

I could post BOTH those images on youtube right now and they would not get pulled down. Yet it was enough to cripple the cogs of ESR?
A site which allows adult content, no word filters, but the word herpes and MK spoof pic with an OBVIOUS reference to the video game brought it grinding to a halt?

You have even allowed existing REFS to the game, this might strike you as odd, but MK is a violent game, all of a sudden you're acting like an over sensitive senator and not a gamer, when it involes dear Zhu.
http://www.esreality.com/files/images/2005/33...blood3.jpg

"i haven't taken zhu under my wing. i haven't nuked any but the 2 posts from the past 10 years, because i've never had a reason to. for some reason, when zhu posts about things, you respond with inappropriate, vividly violent, mean-spirited images."

"haha. VIVILDY VIOLENT!!!"
"Mean spirited" have you not been on this site before?

All of a sudden you're mr senstive. People will talk, I dunno maybe about how you seem to be trying to stick up for the guy and keep denying it?

That you've become abnormally sensitive with anything to do with him?

No more tonight, me tired.

P.S.
I just run both images (you nuked) through a police forensics package, neiteher came up as illegal or violent/sexual and have been defined as SAFE and MODERATE by google image standards.

I think that clearly shows you were expecting something from me along the lines of being grateful with that statement, which was hilarious as there was nothing nuke worthy about my image.

all that clearly shows is that you haven't demonstrated any gratitude for me taking the time to be considerate and thoughtful in my administrative decisions, but have taken the time to be antagonistic and mean-spirited about it. i'm a person, too, jamerio. i have needs. give me some positive reinforcement when i make an effort to do well. :(

A site which allows adult content, no word filters, but the word herpes and MK spoof pic with an OBVIOUS reference to the video game brought it grinding to a halt?

esreality by default does not allow any media content or any content from new, anonymous, and probated users to be posted without first being approved, and even after approval is still subject to administrative action.

i am amazed that your mind is capable of making all of these tenuous connections between concepts, but that it is almost violently against making the connection between context sensitivity and subject matter.

All of a sudden you're mr senstive. People will talk, I dunno maybe about how you seem to be trying to stick up for the guy and keep denying it?

i haven't denied sticking up for the guy, and i'm pretty sure zhu doesn't need me to stick up for him. i think that if you look at all of the insulting posts you linked, you will see that i'm not going out of my way to defend anybody.

All of a sudden you're mr senstive. People will talk, I dunno maybe about how you seem to be trying to stick up for the guy and keep denying it?

you're already talking about it, and i'm getting an opportunity to respond to your accusations.

That you've become abnormally sensitive with anything to do with him?

i think you and i both know the reality of the situation.

I just run both images (you nuked) through a police forensics package, neiteher came up as illegal or violent/sexual and have been defined as SAFE and MODERATE by google image standards.

that's good. post them to your tumblr and revel in google's approval of your creative endeavors. i just think your awkward and uncharacteristically violent and abusive responses to zhu are getting a bit obsessive. people will start to talk, jamerio.

oh, and i just want to point out that, technically, in this thread, you are mr. sensitive. :\

it's funny that in your edit you should mention this:

Interesting Fact

I have made over 20k of posts on this site over 10 years and you say you nuked two of them, and both of them were about ZHU and have taken place within the last 6 weeks!

And you;'ve written a glowing review of him, unprobated him, and tried to get his ban in quakelive taken off for DH.

Is there something we should know Brandan?

Or is this just a coincidence?

the two posts of yours that i have nuked have been images. the first was a gory representation of zhu's disfigured head being bludgeoned by a hammer. the second was highlighting an open sore on his face and calling it herpes. neither posts were appropriate for esreality, and one post actually had people responding, surprised that you would depict something so gruesome and brutal.

i admire your persistence and your ability to parse through tons of data both in your brain and on the internet. it's really a great talent. i am also fascinated by your ability to intuit connections between data, and then to proclaim them so emphatically without any doubt as to their accuracy. i also cannot fathom how your imagined realities can be so readily and repeatedly demonstrated to be false, but you pick up without acknowledging any error, repeating the process of bobbing for apples with your mouth gagged. the question is, if in your thousand incorrect words you speak 10 correctly, do you dismiss the 99:1 ratio at which you are utterly and totally lost in the wild fabrications of your admirably active imagination?

Fabrications?

the description of zhu as a notable attendee was a joke.

zhu does have a good personality for the community. you also have a good personality for the community. i think you're reading too much into that.

i would really like to see zhu at the tournament. what's the problem? you aren't curious about how a crazy arrogant guy would perform against top pros in europe?

i did make a decision to elevate zhu's user level. he's one of the only people contributing unique, original content to the site. i don't know of anybody in this history of esr who created video blogs, let alone with as much subtle humor as his.

as far as your defense of your images, i don't disagree with you. i understand the reference that you made in the image. you pointed out that there are plenty of much more offensive posts than yours. i also agree with you about that.

the main difference between your posts and the rest are that i overlooked the rest, but yours had links and images, and were inappropriate enough that i took notice and spent time considering what the best course of action is.

i don't think it's all in your head. i think you're just cherry picking specific facts to support some preconceived notions.

i'm not your enemy, jamerio. you haven't even bothered to ask me nicely to unnuke your post, or to reason with me. you've taken an antagonistic, accusatory, presumptuous, and combative position, and have made the unfortunate decision to combat factual reality with those weapons.

long story short.

don't delete his posts, he gets all emotional and shit.

I don't care if my post is un-nuked or not, it served a far greater purpose in exposing your adaptive admin methods :). Plus I think even offering the option undermines you further. When I go fishing, I don't complain if I caught the wrong type of fish. You either get a fishy, or you don't.

A screen grab of a video a user posted.
A red circle over the lip highlighting a cold sore.
A comment about what the mark was.

I didn't lie. I didn't manipulate the image. The image would not even get banned on a kids site.

Yet that very simple combination against someone you've been clearly sticking up for as of late was enough to expose a rather large hole around the core ethos of this site.

And I'm getting the credit for it.

i haven't offered to unnuke your post.

i posted a link to the image with the text 'zhu has herpes' on the cartoon network forums. unfortunately it never made it out of the moderation queue. any man with dignity, self-respect, and enough confidence and courage to admit when he has been wrong would be willing to empirically test his own outrageous claims, just for the opportunity to sharpen the knives in the cutlery set of his knowledge.

will you allow yourself to remain dull and clueless, jamerio, or will you step forward, take hold the pommel of your personal responsibility, and use its blade to cleave the stifling and limiting armor of your ignorance? this is a fork (cutlery pun not intended!) in the rest of your life, the sort of minuscule opportunity we overlook every day. now that you're aware of it, there is no pretending it isn't your choice to make.

what will you do?

"i haven't offered to unnuke your post."

you haven't even bothered to ask me nicely to unnuke your post-Brandan

In which I replied...

"I don't care if my post is un-nuked or not"

You put the possibility of un-nuking my post out there, not me.
Why would I ask you to unnuke it, by keeping it nuked its given me a license to pull you apart in public over it. If this was a diversion for Zhu, I'm still gonna troll the guy, when he stops posting dumb videos I'll stop commenting on them and him. You're welcome to do the same, but abusing your admin status is not the right way.

I said the IMAGE was safe. You are the one who attached additional words to it. Nice try. A safe image plus the word herpes should not be nuke worthy on a site like this. The image was non offensive.
The statement was true and at best cheeky. You just got emotionally involved with the target, no I don't think you're gay, I think you just want to help the guy cos you used to be like him. That's fine, but personal feelings should not interfere in the admin duties or it just becomes like every other forum, and not what the core asset the site has.

Pause this video at around 12 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_e...a5STiDo8Zc

Note the cold sore on the lip?

Now image someone put a red circle around it and said the word herpes, which is what cold sores are. And that's worthy of a nuke on a site whose core asset is its freedom of speech.

The image was safe.
The words were true.
You like Zhu,
so good luck to you.

You put the possibility of un-nuking my post out there, not me.

i did no such thing, jamerio. shame on you for yet again fabricating a twisted reality so that you can spew your abusive nonsense at me.

I said the IMAGE was safe. You are the one who attached additional words to it.

what you said is irrelevant, because i nuked a post that contains a phrase and image. do you expect me to test your theory of your post being safe for children's forums by not actually posting what you posted?

The statement was true and at best cheeky.

the statement is potentially true, but we have already established that its veracity has no bearing on its appropriateness for esreality forums. as far as being cheeky, i disagree. you've shown an obsessive desire to single out and abuse an esreality user. it's not acceptable. stop being abusive.

do you really believe that taking a thread off-topic to mock somebody who is allegedly suffering from an assumed medical condition is funny, jamerio? do you run through the cancer ward of a pediatric hospital, popping your head in each door to hilariously proclaim: you have cancer, little kid! ?

You just got emotionally involved with the target, no I don't think you're gay, I think you just want to help the guy cos you used to be like him.

the target? is that what we're referring to other users as now? so he's a target you mocked, and you're threatening to continue this aggravated campaign of abuse?

how have i ever been like zhu, jamerio? from where are you getting the impression that there's any emotional attachment to zhu or how you talk to or about zhu? the only person who has brought up emotional attachment to this issue is you, and the only person demonstrating any language that can be associated with an emotionally excited state is...you.

i think that maybe you are emotionally attached to zhu, jamerio. it's becoming so clear now. all this targeted abuse is not a result of what zhu deserves, it's an attempt to cover up your blossoming desire for zhu's sweet scandinavian body with awkward freudian references to sexually transmitted diseases. it's 2013, jamerio, let go of those old-fashioned fears of your latent homosexuality surfacing to embarrass you. celebrate yourself. i fully support you, jamerio. it's important to accept yourself in life, as far as we can know there's only one chance to come to terms with our rigid little existences!

Now image someone put a red circle around it and said the word herpes, which is what cold sores are. And that's worthy of a nuke on a site whose core asset is its freedom of speech.

you're more than welcome to read through our exchange again to refresh your memory as to just how incorrect this statement is.

"you haven't even bothered to ask me nicely to unnuke your post"-Brandan

By using the word nicely you have implied that the decision was reversible based not only on me requesting it, but requesting it in the certain way.
You might not have said it directly, but your figure of speech is perfectly in line with what most normal people associate with getting something back based on what you said.

what you said is irrelevant, because i nuked a post that contains a phrase and image. do you expect me to test your theory of your post being safe for children's forums by not actually posting what you posted?

"Post a picture of Zhu with a circle on his lip, its safe."
Its just you're uneduacted and assumed I was initially talking about a sexual infection.

Here are several sources which confirm this...

"Cold sores are caused by the herpes simplex virus"

http://www.herpes.org.uk/coldsores.html
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Cold-sore/Pages/Introduction.aspx
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/cold-sores-leaflet

"the statement is potentially true, but we have already established that its veracity has no bearing on its appropriateness for esreality forums. as far as being cheeky, i disagree. you've shown an obsessive desire to single out and abuse an esreality user. it's not acceptable. stop being abusive."

I have not singled him out, I have posted a few comments on the threads he's posted in. I have not made a single thread encouraging any sort of action toward him, you on the other hand have made 3 involving him (all in a positive manner). You were also the one that took him off probation. If anyone has singled him out, its you, just as you have singled out me.

You were also the one who has been exposed for nuking perfectly innocent and factual posts about him. They may not have been nice, but big shit? It is YOU that is behaving obsessively towards him and letting your personal feelings towards him get in the way of how you perceive others view him.

I take the piss out of a lot of people, I get it back, its how it is on ESR.
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

Your personal feelings are not relevant in how other people perceive someone. I am not violent or threatening towards him, my tone to him is pretty consistent with everyone else. But you are MORE THAN welcome to expose some of my evil posts, but given you've already nuked nothing more than a picture I posted of him pointing out he had a cold sore, I don't hold much hope.

"do you really believe that taking a thread off-topic to mock somebody who is allegedly suffering from an assumed medical condition is funny, jamerio? do you run through the cancer ward of a pediatric hospital, popping your head in each door to hilariously proclaim: you have cancer, little kid! ?"

I took nothing off topic (this site is entirely dynamic), I just posted a picture of him and made a factual observation, something which I have had done to me many times, and something which has been done to others many a time. Where were you when The Rail Mc Coy was being abused about his teeth, where were you when Kdawg was being abused for his facial disfigurement and about a million other examples I could point out on this site? Where is your consistency?
There isn't any. This isn't you personal website Brandan.

You took this off topic by nuking a perfectly innocent picture of someone with a factual statement and then abused your position in the process because of who it was mocking. You have behaved in a far more damaging way, you've damaged your peers. You've damaged the integrity of the site to suit your own felings on a subhject.
That is far more damaging that posting a picture of someone and commenting on their cold sore.

You just got emotionally involved with the target, no I don't think you're gay, I think you just want to help the guy cos you used to be like him.

the target? is that what we're referring to other users as now? so he's a target you mocked, and you're threatening to continue this aggravated campaign of abuse?

Lol, the words target has many definitions, but its interesting to see you elevate me to the most cynical one.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/target . If he continues to act like he does with his soppy video and retarded violin and piano themes like some looney tune he deserves the contempt he gets. Don't blame the symptom, you might not feel that way towards him, plenty of otehers do. I repeat, this is not your personal website or blog, no matter how emotionally involved you are in it.

"I posted a picture of him and commented on his cold sore.
People have said and done ar worse to existing users here over the years, you've never had a problem."

how have i ever been like zhu, jamerio? from where are you getting the impression that there's any emotional attachment to zhu or how you talk to or about zhu?

"If you did not have share an affinity with the guy you would be going out of your way to defend him so badly and pretend he's getting a rough deal"

the only person who has brought up emotional attachment to this issue is you, and the only person demonstrating any language that can be associated with an emotionally excited state is...you.

"I brought it up as an observation to your tangent like change in emotions based on this person.

One last thing....

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

lol

you do know I was just joking there with herpes thing right?

So...

I have not singled him out, I have posted a few comments on the threads he's posted in. I have not made a single thread encouraging any sort of action toward him, you on the other hand have made 3 involving him (all in a positive manner). You were also the one that took him off probation. If anyone has singled him out, its you, just as you have singled out me.

...

I have not singled him out, I have posted a few comments on the threads he's posted in.

Let's look back a bit, shall we:

8 July 2013
That's ok, I'll be offering a cash donation to anyone who does something to you, films it and uploads it to ESR.

Full out punch to the arm = 50 GBP.
Slap across the face = 40 GBP.
Barf over your head = 35 GBP.
Bucket of water or fluid of any kind tipped over you = 30 GBP.
Fart in your face and waft it while laughing at you = 20 GBP.
Burp and blow in your face = 15 GBP.
(if you throw up because of the smell on any of last two its an automatic 100)
_______________________________

17 July 2013
Zhu, what if no one see's this cry for help and comes to your rescue?

Just go to the doctors, tell them Jamerio says you're showing increasing signs of Schizophrenia, they can help you.
_______________________________

18 July 2013
(French anonymous says: "He reminds me of Stermy." to which Jamerio replies)
With an extra chromosome.
_______________________________

23 July
(Response to one of Zhu's videos)
Nothing like a dose of Autism and Schizophrenia to brighten up the evening...
_______________________________

This is where we gather your thoughts on Zhu's future in this world:

4 May 2013
Was thinking it was gonna be a live suicide or something.
_______________________________

22 May 2013
When are you streaming your suicide?
_______________________________

29 May 2013
"I wonder what the punchline will be."
He's gonna kill himself.
_______________________________

11 June 2013
(Not sure if this is about Zyzz (the steroid-douche) or Zhu)
Sometimes Zhu, dead is better.
_______________________________

2 August 2013
I think you'll only get those numbers when you start streaming your self harming sessions which are probably not far away.
_______________________________

19 August 2013
"If anyone wants me to make a video about something special, let me know guys."
Your suicide.
_______________________________

18 September 2013
Why do I get the feeling all this is leading up to a live stream of your suicide?
_______________________________

In conclusion I think you're way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay off when you say you haven't singled him out. In your own words you have posted a few comments in the thread's he's posted in... Fair enough, if you hadn't posted no less than 194 times in Zhu's journals. Not counting nuked comments, of course.

ouch gg

ah shit, it's the old cheap copy paste thingy biting jamie in the ass.

stop it.

That has nothing to do with being singled out.

I have made over 21,000 comments on this website.

You just posted 11 of them and tried to use it to justify me singling someone out. (That's how far my dick is up some of your asses.)
I doubt I have posted 194 comments to him, and even if I had, some of you have posted >>1000's<< to me. What you mean is, you found 11 mean quotes I made to him. 11<<< in 3 months!!

11 'mean' comments to someone in around 3 months is less than 4 comments a month, I average more posts than that IN A DAY.

And you and your little possie of socio dependent butt hurt dorks are trying to make out I am singling him out. I bother you so much, you'll even side with someone you dislike for a few weakned moments. Its not pretty! Sorry but, numbers do not lie, butt hurt gamers do. I could find SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER EVIDENCE of many users here doing the same to me. FACT. Where's you morals and admins then?

So don't embarrass yourselves anymore with your dynamic morals.
I can blow ZHU's stats to bits, where was the admin then?
EXACTLY. Which is my whole VALID point. BIAS.

Secondly, my comments to Zhu are in tune with the content he's posting and the reaction I feel suited, I have not singled out ZHU, I have responded in a way in which he's come onto the site and behaved and subsequently made me feel about him. Many others think of a similar nature. I have not made threads about him, I have commented as and when he posts. If he stops posting shit, I'll stop treating him like shit.

It just so happens that zhu chooses to act like a mental patient, posting videos of himself crying, and playing sad music in the background. He's utterly and truly obsessed so I feel its important to put out a strong message so I don't get lumped into the same barrow as him.

So I treat him in accordance to how he comes across to me.
By being as blunt and unwelcoming as I can, it lets him know I am not falling for his BS.

I think I have successfully shat on your post, I'll admit my comments to ZHU are unpleasant, but they are a symptom to how he is behaving.

I treat people how they deserve to be treated, act decent and I'll treat you decent, act like a twat, and you'll get the same thing back.

Many of you treat me in a way you do not treat other users, why?
Because you think I deserve it, that's fine, that's your right, but its also MY RIGHT and other posters rights to have that freedom.
You can't have it both way :) You can, but then you need to cheat and abuse the core ethos of the site, and that only gives me ammo.

Stop acting like babies. Someone told someone to die on the internet and you're getting all upset. Haha. Secondly, those threads you plucked those comments from are filled with plenty of negative comments.

This time last years I had a user called WOTAN try to attack me, he made over a 1200 comments to me in a few months, over 95% of his comments were to me, he posted over 50 images of me.
http://esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=37856

So spare me your adaptive morals and flawed arguments.

I wouldn't even embarrass myself with how some of you little babies are acting, I know over time I must make some of you feel bereft, and this can in turn lower your standards and code of ethics, but its not the way people.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, but don't blame the kitchen!

If he stops posting shit, I'll stop treating him like shit.

all that wall of text... for what?

Irrelevant wall of text, no need to read.





Once again your boredom lead you to your doom. Owned by your own quotes.

Move along.

I have not made a single thread encouraging any sort of action toward him

Read my post again with this in mind. I think you're a fucking liar who will defend his own shitty personality and lack of morals with numbers and averages of how much you post and how someone once said or did something.

sup with all the bold text?

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

let's hope there are no admins who decide to nuke all of my future posts unless you kill yourself.

Brandy,

I still think you lost the discussion from a technical/trolling point of view, BUT, you fought hard and in spite of resistance and social willing to abuse, you did not in the deepest sense.

I'm going to grant you your wish in the hope it gives you inspiration for the future so you can fine tune your administration skills.

After all, if I harp on about being fair, it seems hypocritical to not demonstrate this to others when I get the chance.

that poem made me laugh, btw.

[+]

I really admire your energy. Replying to his inane ramblings must be very wearisome. Exemplary admin behavior.

exactly what I thought.

yet even in fighting back what must have been a swell of frustration, he barely chinked jamerio's armor. in objective eyes, jamerio was laid bare, but in reality, modesty shining through on the part of jamerio to resolve a situation and achieve an acceptable resolution, was never going to happen. this is a case of demonstrating how admin rights are to be percieved on esreality and nothing more. for as long as jamerio treats these discussions in a combative manner, seeking to come out with a victory instead of an understanding, these episodes have no meaningful purpose.

incidently, one thing missed from the discussion, which is probably more relevant than his actual comment, was the intent behind it. intention is everything and in this regard, jamerio demonstrates a high degree of bitterness. if he was less obstructive and more humble then i do believe there is a possibility for him to address his personal battles through introspection and grow as an individual. even on a site as forthright as ESR i have seen people warm to others when an admittance of weakness or failure is made. jamerio isn't alone in that there are others that cling to an elitist mindset, inherent in this site and with gaming in general. it takes a courageous person to admit their flaws in the face of adversity, even if in this case, it is somewhat self-inflicted.

But its possible I'm not as smart as I think (...)

You may be on to something there... ;)

Hypocrite, peace.

Still mad I got you banned from quakelive huh?

So mad, peace.

back to your basement, now!

ouch gg, didnt read it before it was nuked :P

so ouch gg

I never actually read super-long Jamerio-posts, I just scroll through them and feel impressed.

Perhaps 'stunned' is a better word...

or outraged!

Just play with a different name, like all banned cheaters.

Just deal with it, it's not just you.

Whats this shit about. Seriously.

If ure so desperate about attending DH as a player, do it. Whats stopping you? Nothing. If thats what u want, go ahead.

If its about getting your old account back, then do what zeroql did, suck the right dicks, get invited (and paid) to DH, make some random intros and movies, suck dicks some more... and the rest will follow.

zeroql deserves the money, reputation and experiences he has earned with quake. He does actual work instead of just playing.

Im not saying he doesnt deserve the money hes getting, Im saying it wasnt a good enough reason to unban him.

I love it when you try to draw huge conclusions from the smallest amounts of details. It leaves me thinking all those words I spent putting in your place was worth it :)

You mean the anon reply to my comment on dh that got deleted?

Im not trying to draw conclusions. I simply think that theres more important stuff awaiting him in his future real life and solving things this way is a waste of time. Either do something or move on. That was my point.

Guys... Zhu's time is over, he is gone

About time... Zhu. ;)

... if u cant run anymore. I recommend fetus position.

... attend DH lan, but dont expect to be praized like our lord saviour jesus 'jamerio' crist.


on the side note:
i hope someday jamerio meets his biggest esr nemesis.
meme: now kiss.

Farewell, fucktard.

see you in 2015.

http://www.esreality.com/post/2493342/re-reme...pid2493342 (Scroll Up)

I flow chart'd him ages ago, he plays like a bad south american Street Fighter player, a big mouth, self belief, but baaaaaaad skills.

I only "watched" about 2 minutes of the video, so how it ends? Zhu giving up on creating another ESR threads and trying to be unbanned in QL? :X

Zhu took zhuicide

Why does ESR banter always result in essays ? >.>

stay on point or get banned.

/joindota

Seems like the only thing to do is to compare winters edge ffa times between zhu and jamerio.

I don't know why u see Syncerror voting no as the 'nail in the coffin', and that it means 'they're never unbanning you'.

I voted yes too for you to go to DH, but I just realized that it would be unfair if you actually got invited, perhaps for entertainment purposes, at the cost of a player who has been clean all his career (since it's a 32 slot tournament.) So I'll be changing my vote to no.

Also please stop making that pretentious comparison to ZeroQLs ban. The circumstances of cheating were different and you've been able to play on fake accounts for a long time.

That being said, I still hope people will forgive you soon and you'll be able to play the game again that you love, at least in public games.

"Also please stop making that pretentious comparison to ZeroQLs ban. The circumstances of cheating were different and you've been able to play on fake accounts for a long time."

What?
All Zhu did was use a wallhack, ZeroQL used bot, autoshoot etc, even helped develop the cheats. He also played on fake accounts himself (in a league if I recall, playing for 2K2) yet he gets let off over others? I don't see why he wouldn't make the comparison.

Zhu cheated in official games with prizemoney involved.

And it's the first time I hear about zeroql helping to develop cheats.

You have a point about the prize money but apparently he gave that back? I dunno.

The fact that zeroql helped develop the cheats has been said time after time by a lot of people, you should have seen it.

when the musics starts, i swear that the tear fell of my eye. i think left one.

brandan is my favorite esr user

homo

i think brandan is a pretty cool guy. eh isn't related to strap-ons or def leppard and doesn't afraid of anything

If I could, I would sacrifice my account for you zhu!
Play with fake accounts! Inside his heart Syncerror wants to unban you, but he can't! If you create fake account and Syncerror would know it's you, he wouldn't ban you, but he just can't unban your zhu account. Play or die!

lol, uve missed a lot.

And this is coming from a guy who chases people around on public servers, saying stuff like "if you arent banned in a month, ill remove my own account" because he believe they cheat.

You're a funny character.

Cry more.. who did I chased around pub servers? lupi? I am alone was not right about accusing him? And still, I am 50/50 he was cheating with that account and stopped later doing that.

Aztec. And you are oh so wrong.

And a billion flies eat shit, do you eat shit? Because others do it doesn't justify you doing it.

you can compare your self with flies, I don't. I don't gived a shit about aztec, he was totaly noob with cheats or without..

Ah okay, yet, this is you watching that aztec newb play:

I will repeat, I don't give a shit about random noob aztec. I wrote maybe not one time about him too in quake, but in general, I don't care, all talks was about luppi. And my point is same, I still think he was 50/50, after everyone started to guess, who is he, his games looked worse and worse and then every one knew its silencep, he was noob level again.

And I repeat, ur a funny character.

Yeah, I am funny guy!

I think he meant in the other sense of the word...

I only voted yes cuz his gf broke up with him.

But you cant complain about ZeroQl

He is maybe just as guilty as you are but he did shit

Forr tha communitah!

I'd like him to stream again, craziest guy.

gogo zhu

Still like him more than Jamerio

I voted yes but I think you should move on brother.

There's an infinite amount of cool new shit out there waiting to be discovered. I feel sad that you're obviously trapped in a weird state at the moment. A combination of nostalgia and the inability to play has made this into a big deal for you.

I reckon had you never been banned you'd most likely be playing something else right now.

The fact is though, you can still play Quake. There's no such thing as a permanent ban. Why not create a new identity, be the perfect gentlemen, participate in tournaments, then reveal your true identity after winning a Faceit series.

Brandan saves the day once more.

His sentences might be all lower-case but his character is all caps.

Like a true hero he requires no appreciation nor adoration. He works from the shadows, emerging only during times of crisis to stop the menace of Jamerio. Godspeed, you magnificent man. ;_;7

Your "heroes" been caught nuking a post of nothing more than a photo of someone with a comment based on that photo.

You're feelings of helplessness surrounding me are so high you would ACTUALLY put the integrity of the entire site above me.

You're dying for him to ban and probate me aren't you, you're so hungry for me to feel a sense of loss, but it wouldn't it would only make me stronger.

The only way to beat me is in the ring, and you ain't good enough.
Its like Van Damme in Kickboxer at the start, he's fuelled by rage and anger, but had he got that fight against Ton Po at that time, he would have died forver, he went to the mountains and trained, and beat him man, what I'm saying is, you have to train to, and one day you might become a warrior.

You beat me via abuse, and it will only make me stronger.
You will go to bed knowing that you had to cheat to buy your peace, and that will come back and eat you up a 1000 times worse.

Iv'e seen it before, people have put me on IGNORE, and its chewed them and they've come back for more, put me back on IGNORE, and come back again.

Not once in 10 years have I put someone on ignore and I dealt with more shit than anyone.

I am the beacon of light of which your Batman follows!

Dah dah dah dahaaah dah dah!

You really should replace the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

hahaha well written.

... of to the cave! training time!

Your*

http://youtu.be/IbEloyh9qfQ

Just imagine if prisoners all acted like this "yes I killed the guy, I'm sorry ok!", making vlogs about how sad they are not being allowed out of their cells!

There must come a point, Zhu, where you accept you made a mistake and make it through a week without reminding us exactly how sad you are...

ok

brandan vs jamerio in zhu journal thread = saddest shit out there

ok

:]