Yes, I am working on Quake 5 atm, let me know what you think:
http://esreality.com/post/2470490/bring-back-q3-initiative/

the question is will your rig be able to run it.

shelving in a monkey_business thread

id*

-> yahoo answers

Yes and you need need this rig to run it :

http://mygaming.co.za/news/features/47736-the...eated.html

Overly expensive.

Pffff. Another poor.

Pffff. I never said I couldn't afford it. It'd just be a huge waste of money.

It was an interesting fantasy, were not for the fact that several of the components linked have now been discontinued due to impracticality and technological innovation, and the fact the author wanted to substitute a pc case for a fighter jet.

Your PC won't run it

http://esreality.com/post/2470505/syncerror-talks/

quake v mighbt be doable but its still lots of work, which i am not sure is doable given multiple layers of problems, but there is hope

with all due respect to id, there could never have been a true quake v sequel.

it would require a similar graphics to rage wich is just undoable.

because consoles rule the world of modern videogames, even crysis is consoles first, there will never be a fully fledged quake like game, maybe as a smaller type project as a downloadable title on steam with just a few mp maps, like tf2 at launch.

games are getting too boring anyways, i would rather try to get a job as some writer for a gaming magazine.

just imagine how much fuckfest would be required to make a unique looking game like quake 1 with a new engine. first off i am not a good game developer, mapper and art designer maybe, overall vision- fuck no

we can make a quake sequel which would comeout within like 2 years, but will it actually be any better than ut3 or tf2, given how other games have evolved no one is going to stand bunnyhopping anymore.

even quake 4 looks quite presentable and uptodate and still no one plays it. try to get q4 up and running as a free version first if anything.

or even better - doom 3 multiplayer - never took off - but it was so unique without railgun, similar to q1, so much potential, never took off at all

very hard to map for those engines might be the main cause starting with doom 3 engine never really saw unique looking user maps.

all valve games have tons of user maps, maybe thats why. modding is huge for longevity of a game.

they dont require to create separate bump mapping textures to make a well textured maps.

if it was as easy as boarding a plane of course i would have jumped and gotten there. it was much more complicated, my family doesnt really care about it. they dont listen or talk to me about serious stuff.

i cant even get to moscow for fuck sake, and all that would entail is to buy a train ticket for 100 dollars.

and why would id really care about it anyways. i am just yet another modder.

even the best modder can be reaplaced b someone else. games are not really essential to society anyways. its not like oil business where governments depend on it.

which may lead to some really cavelike lifestyles, but people dont die if they cant make a game of their dream. even if it makes them retarded.

i do suffer a lot, but even worst case i can finish this stupid mod thing in moscow and that will be the end off that.

chances are pretty slim, but... never know. maybe i am thinking to go to some retarded russian gamedev if i really need the money. i dont really think i will. i just need some privacy first and then if i cant live longer, the problem is in russia where i live there are only 2 cities with good gamedev studios with good pay that might do something truly good. i am not planning to open my own studio unless its really small..... and to me modding is just too boring. i like normal life, dont really care about huge millions of dollars...

i need a minimum like maybe my own apartment and a girlfriend, but as it is right now things are a little dodgy with all that pussy riot scandal coming from nowhere, dont really want to be yet another putin target.

i have hard time assimilating back the russian culture even though i am russian, its just very fucking hard to get used to criminal lifestyle of the rich russians who will be overseeing my work if i ever get to work at big russian studio, doesnt feel good at all.

Scroll do you type like this in Skype too!

22 21 holy shit dude

I bet the oil will long be finished when we will still have new games kicking in

probably.

quake is one of the strongest brands in the industry, eventho there's no new game for almost 10 years.

it will be shit tho

quake is one of the strongest brands in the industry

nah, not even top100.

i disagree :-)

Good luck disagreeing with a fact..

isnt that what seporates us from the machine???!!!!!

just because ql is not as popular as you guys would want, it doesnt mean the brand isnt strong.


there were no Tomb Raider game for 6 years, and direct prequel of TR reboot was quite shit. however Lara is one of icons of gaming, same as quake, so ppl were hyped about new TR game.

Quake definitely had a strong influence on video games and the whole industry might have been totally different today if Quake hadn't been there. But Quake itself is totally unknown to the average gamer, despite all its influence. The last popular Quake was released 14 years ago and only nerds know about it whereas even older non-rebooted franchises can be more known because they appealed to a broader audience.

Ask 100 random gamers about Quake today and if you're lucky, one of them will be aware of its existence.

^ this.

noone knows about Quake anymore. When people think of FPS shooters they immediately think of COD, Halo, or some other trash newgen game.

Quake is like at the bottom of the list right next to Doom and other older irrelevant classics

obviously newschool console kids have no idea about quake, but soon they will be minority compared to middle age gamers, who obviously must have played quake at some point.

Interesting. What will suddenly make them a minority?

Demographics and economy.

I've read long time ago results of internet survey[it was posted on polish gaming site, i doubt i could find it now, but i can try if you want] about player age, and second biggest group were ppl in between 25 and 35 years. these are the guys who surely remember quake. Considering the population is getting older, its matter of time when mid aged ppl will be the major sector of gaming industry.

secondly - games are made for ppl who can buy them, without begging parents for a new game. That means a quake game would perfectly fit the needs of soon to be the biggest client sector :-)

Considering the population is getting older, its matter of time when mid aged ppl will be the major sector of gaming industry.

wat

Ok. Let's say we have ten 30 years old and one hundred 15 years old. Forward 10 years, we have ten 40 years old, one hundred 25 years old and one hundred 10 years old. Sure, these 15s grew up and can be considered "mid aged people" but they still won't know anything about Quake. In the meantime, the ten old runners will represent an even smaller proportion of the market.

Do your conclusion rely on the assumption that a large portion of the now 15 years old gamers will stop playing video games as they get a live?

ok, go read about demographic trends in developed countries and comeback.

It's called demographic transition, and a few years ago I had to study this stuff academically, day and night, to properly understand the workings of these trends and not just have recitation to rely on for exams.

What you are saying is fundamentally correct, but is not applicable here.

What FlashSoul is driving at, is that, taking an extreme, fictitious example, while ALL Quake players could be 30 years old, it would not mean that all 30 year olds would be Quake players.

The gamers might be getting older, but people who remain gamers in their midlife are fewer apart, because, well, people tend to have to go to work and have kids and all that other good stuff called life.

In other words, you can have your demographic of middle aged ex-Quakers, but them having played it in their youth will not put them under obligation to keep investing precious time in such an old game, if at all into any game. Cuz life.

You will also have middle-aged CoD kiddies, who will still not have a clue what Quake is. Correlation does not equal causation (it's a logical fallacy, have a read), and them becoming 30 will not grant them some innate Quake knowledge.

On top of all of this, you will have the main demographic of gamer, the teenager, as it always has been, still playing whatever will be new at the time. And the teenager of then, will be no more interested in quake than the teenager of today.

If your quasi-theory is so solid, then why are the player numbers still declining? From being a global pastime, Quake has been reduced to just a meeting place for the oldschool diehard fans, and an incredibly minuscule fragment of the younger gamer of today looking to see what this 'Quake thing' is.

Face facts, Quake players are on a decline, because they are moving on, and introducing an army of 30 year-olds will not rejuvenate the community.

Now i understand my examen statistics.

//just kidding

how would yoy explain diablo3 popularity then?

If I said "Can't tell if trolling or retarded", I'd be lying.

Diablo 3 is popular due to
1)Being a very different game. Unlike Quake, Diablo is a series that does not require commitment by the player, in order to keep up and not fall behind when playing online. To present it to you in simple terms, it's a casual game for casual gamers.

2)The RPG genre already commands a much, MUCH higher playerbase from which to gain new players, than our genre of competitive FPS, a ours is a niche audience, Diablo is a series popular in the mainstream market.

3) Marketing on nostalgia, something id have not done effectively, ever.

4) Effective marketing to the younger generation. Old players' hype and expectations due to nostalgia trickling down to those unfamiliar with it by word of mouth.

5) It's a Blizzard game. If you didn't know what Diablo was before D3 was to be released, the forum hype online was enough to make you buy it on the grounds that "It HAS to be good"

If you take the hype Reborn was surrounded in, call the game Quake 5 and scale the market audience to the tens of millions in stead of hundreds of thousands, you'll have yourself a Diablo 3. You will then have a game, which is a sequel, which is accessible to newcomers, the first game in the series after YEARS of waiting, which has a faithful hardcore following, and which has a self-generating publicity engine in the form of online forums.

tl;dr version: read my post above, a number of times (many, if need be), understand that nobody sane ever talks in absolute terms (ALL Quake players get OLD on the SAME day and QUIT, for example) when talking about non-binary issues such as trends, stop misinterpreting to the extent of getting the entire point of the post wrong (doubt kids in primary do that), and gain some common sense.

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d3 was online only, and its about farming. lots of commitement required

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what the hell is comp. fps? fps is fps, biggest genre of gaming.

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tl:dr version: you guys are morons, who look only on online aspect of quake. quake is still big, but only name left tbh

lol'd

most middle-aged quake vets are worried about their mortgage /taking care of their kids, etc.
quake's the last thing on their minds.
id needs a new, more exciting quake and needs to find a way to attract a younger audience(STEAM, baby)


^^ "hitsu"

far from the pic. i do have soul

"Ask 100 random gamers about Quake today and if you're lucky, one of them will be aware of its existence"

aren't you a bit flashy?
or maybe people in the West are more stupid then I thought

I`m afraid reborn is more realistic to happen

Reborn is minimum 3 years away!!

that`s why I added a shiny "I`m afraid"

Q5 is minimum 5 years away.

Doom 4 early 2015, Quake 5 late 2017!

We all will have grandsons by the time Q5 launches -.-

No i don't think so. If they make doom 4 then quake 5 will probably use the same engine. Just look at doom 3 and quake 4, they where released about a year in between. I'm just assuming and hoping that it will be similar this time to.

I just can't belive that DooM4 will be something more than "meh" or "ye... good"

it's been scrapped and remade a few times apparently so I guess they don't know which direction to take it. gun and run of d1/d2 and hide and seek of d3 don't really fit these days when genereally fps titles are open-ended.

just the same as doom on the n64 with bigger and better looking rooms, and chambers, with a few extra hidden ledges

yeah, bigger rooms.

if they are keeping it oldskool and having nothing much todo but find some key cards and get from A -> B with over kill

then it would all be underground like

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4935/sd0000.png to http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gamelife/2011/10/rage_ars_2.jpg

and if outdoor terrain is like rage, then they need to have a big underground areo dome with a decent size plantation like a forest with big fans causing a good breaze to show the engine can do that like all the others of today

Different administration, different strategy.

ID software has shelved Rage 2 (for now) and is working on Doom 4.

doom 4 needs some of this in the aerodome, or everyone will call the engine shit again

http://img4.abload.de/img/2pblu.jpg

cos they exist for real, and would be better for the dome to start as a roof to some doom walls on a fake mars

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2753/4114147956_e834417812_o.jpg