whats the context?

players being whiney little bitches. thinking that being an annoying cunt is cool. being bitches about stats/elo/winning/losing. acting like the kind of people you would be embarrassed to know. being completely ignorant of facts/reality

What's new about that?

Best whine: QUADNOOB.
Oh, and STRAFEHACK. :>

hahahaha i fucking love getting called a "QUADNOOB" in FFA games :)))))))))))))))

COMEATMEBRA!!

Hasn't online gaming always been like that?

no. it's a new thing. kids these days have no respect. get off my lawn.

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates (circa, 469 – 533 A.D.)

"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint... As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress." - Peter the Hermit 1274, A.D.

"We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self control." (writing found on a 6000 year old Egyptian Tomb)

http://www.drselz.com/blog/2011/11/whats-the-...these-days
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408989

(The seemingly out-of-context "get off my lawn" could have hinted you.)
(Sorry if you only wanted to be informative.)

I was assuming sarcasm, but this being the internet you can never be sure.
'Not sure if trolling or serious' kind of thing.
I even googled "now get of my lawn" to make sure I understood, but this being the internet you can never be sure. ;)

Anyway, I also thought it was a good opportunity to spam those quotes. ;)

it was just a humorous ironic characterization.

To elaborate on my previous comment:

I actually don't think that it's such a far fetched idea that kids _are_ in fact getting worse than they used to be! I sorta agree with the op, believe it or not. Let me explain:

First of all there's a big difference between the internet and real life. People behave much worse online than they do in real life simply because there are no consequences. The internet did not yet exist back in the day. (1990: First commercial dial-up ISP)

But just online behaviour itself has gotten worse over time. More sexual and racial slurs, more rudeness and bad behaviour in general.

"78 percent of 2,698 people reporting an increase in rudeness online"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/10/us-...TO20130410

At first the internet was just computer geeks so things were still relatively civil. But at some point in time every random idiot and his dog got an internet connection and things started to get much worse rapidly.

And it's not stopping there: a snowball effect has set in, a self reinforcing process: rudeness and bad behaviour generates more rudeness and bad behaviour as a response and so forth. It's a vicious circle.

To make matters worse it looks like this online behaviour is starting to spill over in real life:

"In a recent survey of American adults, 69% felt that Americans are becoming ruder and less civilized."
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/09/01/poll-c...ing-ruder/
http://www.afr.com/p/leadership/are_people_ge...MV8DppPAHO

Could of course also just be the "kids these days" effect. ;)

http://www.livescience.com/7599-graffiti-trig...ering.html

maybe these concepts are related. we can call it the law of environmentally influenced faggotry. the introduction of faggotry into an environment establishes a precedent for the acceptability of shitty behavior that participants of that environment associate with faggotry.

somebody whines, that whining isn't stifled, and now other whiners begin to see that whining is acceptable. somebody impulsively and emotionally accuses of cheats without evidence, and admins leave the post alone, now others who have similar feelings see that it has been accepted and is okay.

you can trust what i say, because i'm a good guy.

edit: to expand, each user has a range of behaviors they value differently, and those values can be compared and contrasted, such as spitting and littering, or calling somebody retarded and rage quitting a match. if a user who feels that calling people retarded is related to rage quitting, and the precedent for an environment is that calling people retarded is okay, they may assume that rage quitting is okay.

some users may NOT consider rage quitting okay, but may also associate calling people retarded with calling people faggots.

now you have two different types of users feeling it's okay to call people retarded, and in turn calling people faggots and rage quitting.

now, these users also feel that other behaviors are acceptable based on the children precedents of the main retard precedent, so that some users now feel it's acceptable to threaten to kill users based on the acceptability of calling users faggots, and some users feel it's okay to kick people from games they're losing based on the acceptability of rage quitting.

and so on, as a negative feedback loop.

Definitely agree that bad behaviour in game or on forums is contagious and will lead to a downward spiral if nothing is done about it.
Doesn't mean though that game developers or forum moderators have to turn into tyrants and stamp out any sign or anything that could possibly be deemed inappropriate. It can be a very difficult job though to find the right balance. ESR is a curious case (in my experience): they are pretty relaxed and the forums are still very readable. There's a lot of trolling of course but most (if not practically all) is in good humor. ESR might be a bit of an exception to the rule though. ;)
The QuakeLive developers might do more to squelch bad behaviour in game. Maybe implement a button in the in-game menu somewhere to make it very easy to report misbehaving players so that when they get a lot of flags from different people about one player they can look into it and take appropriate action. Or maybe that reeks too much of an informant society. ;)

the problem is that reporting can also become an administrative burden, especially when the behavioral precedent becomes such that reporting is expected.

there are variables in any system, so i think what's important is just having a good foundation that sets a benchmark from which the deviations can occur, this way you may not be able to predict them precisely, but you can at least limit the range of the deviations.

if that makes any sense.

kinda, not nearly as bad as it is nowadays :s

no, its assholes ingame and pussies in real life

yeah, people are degenerate in real life, and that transfers to the internet.

quake was kinda the last bastion of hope for me. started playing again recently only to learn that the same scum i want to get away from are playing this too :(

You play games to get away from a certain type of personality? I think you're doing it wrong.

probably :p
used to be fine 'back in the day' now though.. ugh, what horrible people

95% LOL



















its 99% -_-

Nowdays? It has been exactly like this.

I feel exactly the same man






when I read your post.

qq more kids

puberty

you are right though, it's not just trash talk, it's being REALLY obnoxious to everyone all the time, thinking they are being part of the cool kids somehow. It does include kick spamming etc. just pissing everyone off.

The ones i met seems to be newschool british kids, not to say they are the only ones.

kinda used to it tbh

stats

I always whine like a kid in every game, because it's funny that people are so stupid that they actually think that I am talking completely serious.

blabla

ouch gg

is that kid hitsu

nope, it is zhu.

IT'S FUCKING ZHU ZHU ZHU (8)
IT'S FUCKING ZHU ZHU ZHU (8)

can't believe nobody plussed this yet

perfection

are you whining about people whining

Man the fuck up.

Penis.

A pussy is easier to pound than an asshole. Let your shaft do the talking.

95% of 0 is still 0

Turn off chat, they're gonna die young.

Jazzy, even if you're a pussy I wouldn't fuck that.


You're all the pussies, im the dick.

even before qlranks came about, you had people who would be somewhat obsessed with sv_skillrating, but now that qlranks is known by most of the community, it brings out the worst in a lot of people :/