[13:43] <Lions\th0> http://www.wtfnoway.com/
[13:43] <Lions\th0> hahaah
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[13:49] <xXbrandanXx666> I don't see why it's such a big issue.
[13:49] <xXbrandanXx666> The U.S. is the greatest country on earth.
[13:50] <xXbrandanXx666> Best health care, best environment, best schools, best foods, best government, best military, best debt.
[13:50] <Lions\th0> heheheeh ye :P
[13:52] <izzd> replace best with worst :D
[13:52] <Lions\th0> =)
[13:52] <Lions\th0> they might have a bether military then my country. but the rest is far bether here :P
[13:52] <Lions\th0> but i like america
[13:53] <Lions\th0> but it might be smart to pull out of the endless wars now. and spend more on its own
[13:53] <Samomysl> Or just spend less.
[13:53] <xXbrandanXx666> Nah, we need more wars to drive more domestic production.
[13:54] <Lions\th0> i know
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Also stricter drug laws and illegalized abortion.
[13:54] <Lions\th0> but atm its not running it
[13:54] <Lions\th0> to mutch wars in to little time
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Not enough wars.
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[13:54] <Meadows> who in their right mind would want to make abortion illegal
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Each soldier is a job created.
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> The more soldiers, the more jobs.
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> The more jobs, the better the economy.
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> It's very simple.
[13:55] <Samomysl> Milton Brandan.
[13:55] <Meadows> yes and who pays the soldiers
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> The military.
[13:55] <Lions\th0> they dont earn anything. make piss amount of money
[13:55] <Meadows> who pays the military
[13:55] <Samomysl> Brandan Keynes.
[13:55] <Lions\th0> get them in to a real job
[13:55] <Meadows> no
[13:55] <Candlejack> Except soldiers generate no captical and no profit
[13:55] <Meadows> exactly
[13:55] <Candlejack> Like every government job
[13:55] <Meadows> they're like communist mass workplaces, they're useless
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> By securing countries against terrorism, they open up jobs in oil and construction.
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Exclusive contracts for U.S. companies, like Haliburton.
[13:56] <Meadows> because oil and construction goes against terrorism directly
[13:56] <Candlejack> Level a country so we can profit from building it back up? B rilliant
[13:56] <Meadows> is Bush your uncle?
[13:56] <Lions\th0> We have oil without the wars
[13:56] <Lions\th0> :D
[13:56] <Candlejack> Oil sucks
[13:56] <Samomysl> We have potatoes.
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> It's called war, the point isn't to make friends.
[13:56] <Meadows> no Candlejack, we suck oil
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Kill the people and take their things.
[13:56] <Meadows> you know, like soviet russia
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> So we can have better stuff.
[13:56] <Candlejack> The average car use to get 70 miles to the gallon
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Citation needed.
[13:56] <Meadows> how about you grow the fcuk up, and develop yourself to have better stuff
[13:57] <Candlejack> Now they brag about 30 miles to the gallon
[13:57] <Meadows> war is always the cheapass way in Civilization
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Yeah, so?
[13:57] <Meadows> so you're a cheapass and a hillbilly
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> The universe is not a friendly place.
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Conflict is necessary at all times.
[13:57] <Candlejack> We should nuke china to the ground to get rid of our dept
[13:57] <Meadows> so make it intellectual conflict
[13:57] <Candlejack> Who's gonna miss them
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Intellectual conflict?
[13:57] <Samomysl> Cold war-like.
[13:57] <Meadows> physical conflict is for morons
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> You propose a math contest to determine who gets oil?
[13:58] <Candlejack> No, quake tournement
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Physical conflict has real consequences.
[13:58] <Meadows> exactly
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> How could an 'intellectual' conflict have results?
[13:58] <Meadows> simple
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Or how could anybody be held to them?
[13:58] <Meadows> by developing technology that doesn't rely on oil
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> People must die.
[13:58] <Meadows> that's one way
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> The people who die the most are the least likely to defend themselves.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Because they are dead.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> That is how war works.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> If you don't like it, perhaps you should grow up.
[13:59] <Meadows> I am grown up, that's why I'm not excited by the prospects of any war
[13:59] <Meadows> back when I was an impressionable kid, I was like "woah, cool war"
[13:59] <xXbrandanXx666> Developing new technology requires oil.
[13:59] <Meadows> no it doesn't
[13:59] <Meadows> unless you want a new type of plastic
[13:59] <xXbrandanXx666> Are you so shortsighted?
[13:59] <Meadows> are you?
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> Am I?
[14:00] <Meadows> you're like a grumpy grandad with a fixed line like "oil, oil, everything needs oil, don't tell me otherwise,
I know better, back in my day..."
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> The war kills terrorists, gives the U.S. jobs, creates international stability, and secures resources.
[14:00] <Candlejack> Plastic doesn't require oil
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> You're upset because you're not an American.
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> It's understandable.
[14:01] <Candlejack> Or at least, there's something like plastic that doesn't need oil
[14:01] <Meadows> Candlejack, where do you imagine most plastic comes from
[14:01] <Candlejack> Oil is still too damn cheap for alternatives to be worth a shit
[14:01] <Meadows> I'm not upset
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> It's true. If wars were too expensive for the benefit of oils, do you think the people in power would
wage them?
[14:02] <Meadows> I'm trying to beat some goddamn sense into you
[14:02] <Candlejack> You can bet your ass the moment it becomes unprofitable, capitalism will kick in and we'll have ethanol
powered everything
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> They wouldn't, because they are our representatives.
[14:02] <Meadows> but you're a moron, BECAUSE you're American
[14:02] <Meadows> it's understandable
[14:02] <Candlejack> Nebraska will become rich
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> So you're generalizing an entire civilization?
[14:02] <Meadows> no, I'm generalising the waste product of the UK
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> This is your level of grown up argumentation?
[14:02] <Meadows> not a civilisation, no
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> The UK, which has its people of power placed there by the U.S.?
[14:03] <sfxer> ethanol powered everything would be disasterous
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> With its receding chins and incestuous tendencies?
[14:03] <Meadows> how would you know, sfxer
[14:03] <sfxer> it took 30% of the corn produce in the USA to supplement 10% of the gasoline in your car now
[14:03] <sfxer> ...
[14:03] <Candlejack> We could fuel half the cars in america with the ethanol that you could make from discarded corn
[14:03] <Meadows> because corn is inefficient
[14:03] <Meadows> they're actively developing other ways
[14:03] <Meadows> and they SHOULD
[14:03] <sfxer> uhh, we don't have enough corn is my point.
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> They?
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> Who is they, Meadows?
[14:03] <Meadows> biofuel researchers
[14:04] <sfxer> we have enough corn to replace a little over a 1/3 of our oil need.
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Where?
[14:04] <Meadows> last I was reading, they tried to make fuel from cellulose directly
[14:04] <sfxer> and if we did that
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Which biofuel researchers?
[14:04] <sfxer> we'd have no food
[14:04] <Candlejack> We can't do it yet, but ways to process the WHOLE cob is being worked on
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> You're an Internet genius, Meadows.
[14:04] <Meadows> if I remembered the names of everyone, xXbrandanXx666, I'd be a fscking idiot
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Damn the real world.
[14:04] <Meadows> just go to arstechnica daily and you'll be smarter
[14:04] <Meadows> it IS the real world
[14:04] <Meadows> idiot
[14:04] <Meadows> maybe there will be still oil by the time you're dead, but fcuk your kids, right? obviously
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Keep dreaming.
[14:04] <Meadows> and I'm shortsighted
[14:04] <Meadows> pathetic
[14:04] <Meadows> you're pitiful
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> One day the U.S. will have power, and your grandchildren will be begging for meat pies.
[14:05] <Samomysl> And your upset, Meadows.
[14:05] <Candlejack> There's also the option of making cars more efficient, but that won't happen unless the secret contracts
between the oil companies and car manufacturers goes away
[14:05] <Meadows> yes I am, Sam
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> From a wood burning oven.
[14:05] <Meadows> this guy is ridiculous
[14:05] <Meadows> r
[14:05] <Meadows> i
[14:05] <Meadows> d
[14:05] <Meadows> i
[14:05] <Meadows> c
[14:05] <Meadows> u
[14:05] <Meadows> l
[14:05] <Meadows> o
[14:05] <Meadows> u
[14:05] <Meadows> s
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> Please sir, spare a pork pie for my sister?
[14:05] <Samomysl> So that's how it's spelt.
[14:05] <Meadows> yes, why yes it is
[14:06] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666, "one day the US will have power"?
[14:06] <Candlejack> My dads unimog has better fucking mileage than a ford pick up.
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[14:06] <Meadows> keep dreaming
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[14:07] <Samomysl> This thought is scary, Meadows, but it seems to me that you're slowly becoming me.
[14:08] <Meadows> what makes you believe so?
[14:08] <xXbrandanXx666> Meadows, when the U.S. is burning oil for electricity, you will be a dirty old man on a street corner
preaching to the world the coming of the natural resources revolution.
[14:08] <Lam> Samomysl: CZEGO!!!
[14:08] <Samomysl> You're doing what I have been doing for past two years now. Trolling, making people swear and get kicked when
they don't want to...
[14:08] <xXbrandanXx666> As your country burns wood for warmth.
[14:09] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666, the US is already burning oil for electricity
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[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> That's right, Meadows.
[14:09] <Meadows> at least any time they're not burning coal and killing workers with it
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> Killing workers?
[14:09] <Meadows> so I don't get your point
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> Clean coal provides safe power to the country.
[14:09] <Meadows> coal power kills more people than all other forms of power combined, and it's still in use
[14:09] <Meadows> clean coal is an oxymoron
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> It is the most clean technology ever invented.
[14:09] <Lam> Samomysl: that's BS
[14:10] <Meadows> nuclear is the cleanest source of power today
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> You could put a clean coal processing plant in a hospital and nobody would know.
[14:10] <Meadows> and the least hazardous
[14:10] <Meadows> causes the least amount of cancer
[14:10] <Meadows> operates with the highest yield
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> Is it? Let's ask Japan and Russia about that.
[14:10] <Samomysl> Why Russia?
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> They will tell you "No, Meadows, indeed it is not."
[14:10] <Meadows> because Japan is already working on Fusion, and because Russians don't heat
[14:10] <Meadows> who are they?
[14:10] <Meadows> xxb
[14:10] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666,
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> Russia, the country.
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> And Japan.
[14:11] <Meadows> where will they say that?
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> All of its citizens.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> They will say it on IRC.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> When you grow the courage to ask.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> When you don't hide behind your theoretical criticisms of the people who provide for you the comforts
that allow you to argue against them so vehemently on the Internet.
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> :(
[14:11] <Meadows> you do realise you're full of shit, right?
[14:11] <Meadows> I mean, you have got to realise it at some point
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> You are so rude and crude.
[14:12] <Samomysl> I do now.
[14:12] <Meadows> arguing against nuclear power is possibly the weakest stance you can ever take
[14:12] <Meadows> and you just took it
[14:12] <Meadows> you must realise you're full of it
[14:12] <Samomysl> Your.
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Nuclear power is an aberration in the eyes of God.
[14:12] <Meadows> I see, you're trolling
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Trolling?
[14:12] <Meadows> nobody takes power and religion seriously at the same time
[14:12] <Meadows> you're just trolling
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Is that what it means when anybody has an opinion that is different than yours?
[14:12] <Meadows> end of discussion, it's been fun
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> You lack respect for disparate ideas.
[14:13] <Meadows> go back to 4chan and troll someplace else
[14:13] <Meadows> so Sam, where were we
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> That's so typical.
[14:13] <Samomysl> You're becoming me, that is, the main troll of this channel.
[14:13] <Samomysl> That's my thought.
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> You lack a valid premise, and so you toss out the red herring/ad hominems.
[14:13] <Meadows> you're like David Hasselhoff, Sam
[14:14] <Meadows> as in, I would never want to become you
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> Once again the U.S. triumphs in the face of adversity.
[14:14] <Meadows> okay, I will bite, xXbrandanXx666, but only because you're a sparkling fag
[14:14] <Samomysl> Hey, isn't that you, sotrix?
[14:14] <Meadows> where is this God whose eyes you're talking about
[14:14] <Meadows> since you clearly can't raise a valid argument against nuclear
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> Where is he?
[14:14] <Meadows> yes
[14:14] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> He is all around, in everything.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> No?
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> He's in you, and in me.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> Over there.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> Right here.
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
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[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> GG.
[14:15] <Samomysl> Buy, buy, Meadows.
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[14:15] <Meadows> still can't hear you
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Whoa, he is risen.
[14:16] <Meadows> waiting for the answer
[14:16] <Meadows> you have yet to provide it
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Which answer?
[14:16] <Samomysl> Moses supposes his toes are roses.
[14:16] <Meadows> where this "god" aberration of your mind resides
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> A lack of evidence is not evidence.
[14:16] <markusarailias> from who
[14:16] <Meadows> exactly, xXbrandanXx666
[14:16] <Meadows> that's why I'm demanding evidence, not a lack of it
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Evidence of what?
[14:17] <Meadows> good lord your attention span's short as your penis
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> The very premise of God is that he needs not be evident.
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> You're not allowing yourself to accept that premise, because you are afraid.
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> Your cowardice is evident.
[14:17] <Meadows> any other excuses you have read that conveniently sidestep the burden of having to explain god?
[14:17] <markusarailias> i agree
[14:17] <Meadows> I would love to hear the rest of them
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> I don't have to explain God, and why should I?
[14:17] <Meadows> because you believe in him
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> So?
[14:17] <Meadows> I can explain every single thing I believe in
[14:17] <markusarailias> farmers dont play quakelive
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> You can?
[14:18] <Meadows> if you believe in something you can't explain, it's either in your head, or it's a superstition
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> Explain the chemical process by which ethanol is derived.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> Starting with the beginning of the universe.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> As Carl Sagan might say.
[14:18] <Meadows> I'll read up on it
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> No you won't.
[14:18] <Meadows> and then I will be able to
[14:18] <Meadows> but no matter how much you read up on god, you will not be able to explain him
[14:18] <Samomysl> Honor is neither in my head, nor a superstition.
[14:18] <markusarailias> i can explain it all but not here its a long story
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> You'll pretend to, then in typically lazy fashion just assume you're correct for the sake of your ego.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> While the rest of the world works to provide you with your comforts.
[14:19] <markusarailias> oh no sir i have partners too
[14:19] <Meadows> I will disallow you to change the topic back
[14:19] <Meadows> explain god
[14:19] <xXbrandanXx666> I could just as well explain magic.
[14:19] <Meadows> I'm impervious to many forms of trolling, so go ahead
[14:19] <xXbrandanXx666> How could the fish explain the ocean, Meadows?
[14:19] <Meadows> nobody's asking them
[14:19] <eraser> magic is an illusion tho
[14:19] <Meadows> I'm asking you to explain god
[14:19] <markusarailias> adobe, microsoft, utube, facebook ect
[14:19] <eraser> it doesnt claim to be real
[14:19] <Meadows> so stick to it, or leave the channel
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> Whoa.
[14:20] <markusarailias> quakenetr
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You are not the lord of #quakelive.
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> To dictate who may stay.
[14:20] <markusarailias> no sir
[14:20] <Samomysl> Correct.
[14:20] <Samomysl> I am.
[14:20] <Meadows> irrelevant
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You present either/or fallacies while you pretend to care for logic and argumentation.
[14:20] <markusarailias> samomysl partner
[14:20] <Meadows> I asked you a question, and you have taken every opportunity in existence to sidestep it
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> Your mind is flawed.
[14:20] <Meadows> if there's any weakness to focus on, it's with you
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You are sick, Meadows. Probably possessed.
[14:21] <markusarailias> ask him
[14:21] <Meadows> allow me to ask again, explain god
[14:21] * markusarailias is now known as nighttimepunk
[14:21] <Meadows> feel free to sidestep it once more
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I told you, Meadows. You may just as well ask a fish to explain the ocean.
[14:21] <Meadows> exactly
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I am but a slippery fish.
[14:21] <Meadows> let's try again: explain god
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I live within one region of the ocean, that which supports me and that which I may see.
[14:21] <nighttimepunk> ok ill explain , im boss you player
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> What can I say even of sharks, let alone of whales?
[14:22] <Meadows> nothing, I asked you to explain god
[14:22] <Meadows> you might as well give it your best shot
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> My best shot would fall infinitely far from God's greatness.
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> It would be an insult to our lord.
[14:22] <Meadows> invalid reply - how about this: explain god
[14:22] <nighttimepunk> cant help but try , its all embeded
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> Mine will not be the fingers to sully his good name.
[14:22] <Meadows> he doesn't have a good name, I think god is pretty terrible on the tongue
[14:22] <eraser> are you a creationist?
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> Suffice to say, Meadows, your expectation that God can be explained is begging the question.
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> yea your right
[14:23] <Meadows> there's no question to beg
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> You are, for all your professions of logic, an illogical person.
[14:23] <Meadows> you're begging MY question
[14:23] <Meadows> instead of answering it
[14:23] <Meadows> where is god?
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> but at the same time your pretty worthless too
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Full of spiteful ad hominem and ignorance-embracing bifurcation.
[14:23] <Meadows> invalid reply, where is god?
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> wise guy huh
[14:23] <eraser> if you believe in god
[14:23] <eraser> isnt it like a sin
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> A troll, obfuscating valuable conversation with your Wikipedia education.
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Go back to 4chan, Meadows.
[14:23] <eraser> to have the 'devils number' in your name?
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Where you belong.
[14:24] <Meadows> an education is better than none, xXbrandanXx666
[14:24] <Meadows> I bet if I believed in god, I could even tell you what he is
[14:24] <nighttimepunk> im at the top where i belong
[14:24] <Meadows> I'm a well read person
[14:24] <xXbrandanXx666> Please, tell us more about yourself, Meadows.
[14:24] <xXbrandanXx666> You sound like a very interesting person.
[14:24] <eraser> can you answer my question xXbrandanXx666?
[14:24] <Meadows> change of subject not allowed
[14:24] <Meadows> tell us where god is
[14:24] <nighttimepunk> hes a snipe hunter
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> eraser, 666 is not the number of the beast.
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> God is everywhere, Meadows.
[14:25] <Samomysl> 777 is.
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> In everything.
[14:25] * chumbo`off is now known as chumbo
[14:25] <eraser> god is camping railgun on dm6
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> I've answered three times now.
[14:25] <Meadows> he must be from string theory then
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> You refuse my answer without consideration.
[14:25] <Meadows> how many dimensions is he traversing?
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> So, you believe in string theory?
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> All dimensions, Meadows, obviously.
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Are you so simple that this concept eludes you?
[14:26] <eraser> does god have a beard?
[14:26] <Meadows> lol
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Yes, a great beard.
[14:26] <Meadows> good one
[14:26] <Meadows> does he wear slippers?
[14:26] <eraser> wicked
[14:26] <Meadows> does he have hands, feet, or a nose?
[14:26] <@SyncError|home> +m ?
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Yes and no.
[14:26] <Meadows> does he have hair?
[14:26] <Meadows> I wonder if god needs glasses
[14:26] <nighttimepunk> lol its the beard tv
[14:26] <Meadows> does he wear a toga or a cape?
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Both and none.
[14:26] <Meadows> how old is god?
[14:27] <Meadows> why would he make adam and eve?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> As old as everything and young as nothing.
[14:27] <Meadows> and why wouldn't eve love wall-e at first?
[14:27] <eraser> how old is everything?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> How can I claim to speak for God's decisions?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> How old is nothing, eraser?
[14:27] <eraser> nothing has no age
[14:27] <Meadows> nothing is nothing
[14:27] <eraser> cos its nothing
[14:27] <Meadows> it's a logical construct used to describe void
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> Void is nothing?
[14:27] <Meadows> like a point in geometry
[14:27] <Meadows> a point doesn't exist
[14:27] <Meadows> it's a logical construct to denote a position in a system
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> So God is a point?
[14:27] <Meadows> same with "nothing"
[14:27] <Meadows> nothing is nothing
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[14:28] <xXbrandanXx666> A position in no space?
[14:28] <nighttimepunk> its a distraction to the supernova about to come
[14:28] <Meadows> one day you will learn to read, and stop taking lines out of context
[14:28] <Meadows> until then, I will leave you bewildered
[14:28] <xXbrandanXx666> One day you will learn to speak, and not regurgitate concepts you've briefly glanced over on Wikipedia
and Reddit athiesm forums.
[14:28] <nighttimepunk> meadows you need some weed
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> We are brothers, Meadows.
[14:29] <Meadows> I don't visit reddit
[14:29] <Meadows> no we're not
[14:29] <Meadows> if we were, you'd get beat up
[14:29] <Samomysl> Sisters, then.
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Brothers under God's love.
[14:29] <Meadows> where is god
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Everywhere, Meadows, and nowhere.
[14:29] <Meadows> oxymoron
[14:29] <Meadows> where is god
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Precisely.
[14:29] <nighttimepunk> withen the entity
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> You denounce me for your own inability to understand basic concepts of the universe.
[14:30] <Meadows> we can keep going on like this, it's quite entertaining I have to admit
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> It is sad to watch, and I pity you, but I love you.
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> Brother.
[14:30] <Meadows> watching you scrambling to pull together some argument
[14:30] <Meadows> then failing midways
[14:30] <Samomysl> Failing meadows.
[14:30] <Meadows> even worse, you claim to love a stranger, as one of christian fame
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> You remind me of myself when I was young, Meadows.
[14:30] <nighttimepunk> but what was that but mere failure of discontent
[14:31] <Meadows> famous for being the most hateful, spiteful and prejudiced people in the world
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> Impressionable, enthusiastic to show the world my intelligence.
[14:31] <Meadows> right next to muslims
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> Then I found God's infinite love.
[14:31] <Meadows> you know nothing about love
[14:31] <Meadows> nothing at all
[14:31] * xXbrandanXx666 hugs Meadows.
[14:31] <Samomysl> Guys, you make too much sense.
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> The universe is not a cold, dead place.
[14:31] * SyncError|home sets mode: +m
[14:31] <@SyncError|home> And that wraps up today's amazing lesson on Theology.
[14:32] <@SyncError|home> Everyone do your homework and have completed your assigned reading before next week's lesson.
[14:32] * SyncError|home sets mode: -m
[14:32] <nighttimepunk> next week you wont see me
[14:33] <Meadows> I will try my damnedest to miss you
[13:43] <Lions\th0> hahaah
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[13:49] <xXbrandanXx666> I don't see why it's such a big issue.
[13:49] <xXbrandanXx666> The U.S. is the greatest country on earth.
[13:50] <xXbrandanXx666> Best health care, best environment, best schools, best foods, best government, best military, best debt.
[13:50] <Lions\th0> heheheeh ye :P
[13:52] <izzd> replace best with worst :D
[13:52] <Lions\th0> =)
[13:52] <Lions\th0> they might have a bether military then my country. but the rest is far bether here :P
[13:52] <Lions\th0> but i like america
[13:53] <Lions\th0> but it might be smart to pull out of the endless wars now. and spend more on its own
[13:53] <Samomysl> Or just spend less.
[13:53] <xXbrandanXx666> Nah, we need more wars to drive more domestic production.
[13:54] <Lions\th0> i know
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Also stricter drug laws and illegalized abortion.
[13:54] <Lions\th0> but atm its not running it
[13:54] <Lions\th0> to mutch wars in to little time
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Not enough wars.
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[13:54] <Meadows> who in their right mind would want to make abortion illegal
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> Each soldier is a job created.
[13:54] <xXbrandanXx666> The more soldiers, the more jobs.
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> The more jobs, the better the economy.
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> It's very simple.
[13:55] <Samomysl> Milton Brandan.
[13:55] <Meadows> yes and who pays the soldiers
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> The military.
[13:55] <Lions\th0> they dont earn anything. make piss amount of money
[13:55] <Meadows> who pays the military
[13:55] <Samomysl> Brandan Keynes.
[13:55] <Lions\th0> get them in to a real job
[13:55] <Meadows> no
[13:55] <Candlejack> Except soldiers generate no captical and no profit
[13:55] <Meadows> exactly
[13:55] <Candlejack> Like every government job
[13:55] <Meadows> they're like communist mass workplaces, they're useless
[13:55] <xXbrandanXx666> By securing countries against terrorism, they open up jobs in oil and construction.
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Exclusive contracts for U.S. companies, like Haliburton.
[13:56] <Meadows> because oil and construction goes against terrorism directly
[13:56] <Candlejack> Level a country so we can profit from building it back up? B rilliant
[13:56] <Meadows> is Bush your uncle?
[13:56] <Lions\th0> We have oil without the wars
[13:56] <Lions\th0> :D
[13:56] <Candlejack> Oil sucks
[13:56] <Samomysl> We have potatoes.
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> It's called war, the point isn't to make friends.
[13:56] <Meadows> no Candlejack, we suck oil
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Kill the people and take their things.
[13:56] <Meadows> you know, like soviet russia
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> So we can have better stuff.
[13:56] <Candlejack> The average car use to get 70 miles to the gallon
[13:56] <xXbrandanXx666> Citation needed.
[13:56] <Meadows> how about you grow the fcuk up, and develop yourself to have better stuff
[13:57] <Candlejack> Now they brag about 30 miles to the gallon
[13:57] <Meadows> war is always the cheapass way in Civilization
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Yeah, so?
[13:57] <Meadows> so you're a cheapass and a hillbilly
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> The universe is not a friendly place.
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Conflict is necessary at all times.
[13:57] <Candlejack> We should nuke china to the ground to get rid of our dept
[13:57] <Meadows> so make it intellectual conflict
[13:57] <Candlejack> Who's gonna miss them
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> Intellectual conflict?
[13:57] <Samomysl> Cold war-like.
[13:57] <Meadows> physical conflict is for morons
[13:57] <xXbrandanXx666> You propose a math contest to determine who gets oil?
[13:58] <Candlejack> No, quake tournement
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Physical conflict has real consequences.
[13:58] <Meadows> exactly
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> How could an 'intellectual' conflict have results?
[13:58] <Meadows> simple
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Or how could anybody be held to them?
[13:58] <Meadows> by developing technology that doesn't rely on oil
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> People must die.
[13:58] <Meadows> that's one way
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> The people who die the most are the least likely to defend themselves.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> Because they are dead.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> That is how war works.
[13:58] <xXbrandanXx666> If you don't like it, perhaps you should grow up.
[13:59] <Meadows> I am grown up, that's why I'm not excited by the prospects of any war
[13:59] <Meadows> back when I was an impressionable kid, I was like "woah, cool war"
[13:59] <xXbrandanXx666> Developing new technology requires oil.
[13:59] <Meadows> no it doesn't
[13:59] <Meadows> unless you want a new type of plastic
[13:59] <xXbrandanXx666> Are you so shortsighted?
[13:59] <Meadows> are you?
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> Am I?
[14:00] <Meadows> you're like a grumpy grandad with a fixed line like "oil, oil, everything needs oil, don't tell me otherwise,
I know better, back in my day..."
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> The war kills terrorists, gives the U.S. jobs, creates international stability, and secures resources.
[14:00] <Candlejack> Plastic doesn't require oil
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> You're upset because you're not an American.
[14:00] <xXbrandanXx666> It's understandable.
[14:01] <Candlejack> Or at least, there's something like plastic that doesn't need oil
[14:01] <Meadows> Candlejack, where do you imagine most plastic comes from
[14:01] <Candlejack> Oil is still too damn cheap for alternatives to be worth a shit
[14:01] <Meadows> I'm not upset
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> It's true. If wars were too expensive for the benefit of oils, do you think the people in power would
wage them?
[14:02] <Meadows> I'm trying to beat some goddamn sense into you
[14:02] <Candlejack> You can bet your ass the moment it becomes unprofitable, capitalism will kick in and we'll have ethanol
powered everything
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> They wouldn't, because they are our representatives.
[14:02] <Meadows> but you're a moron, BECAUSE you're American
[14:02] <Meadows> it's understandable
[14:02] <Candlejack> Nebraska will become rich
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> So you're generalizing an entire civilization?
[14:02] <Meadows> no, I'm generalising the waste product of the UK
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> This is your level of grown up argumentation?
[14:02] <Meadows> not a civilisation, no
[14:02] <xXbrandanXx666> The UK, which has its people of power placed there by the U.S.?
[14:03] <sfxer> ethanol powered everything would be disasterous
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> With its receding chins and incestuous tendencies?
[14:03] <Meadows> how would you know, sfxer
[14:03] <sfxer> it took 30% of the corn produce in the USA to supplement 10% of the gasoline in your car now
[14:03] <sfxer> ...
[14:03] <Candlejack> We could fuel half the cars in america with the ethanol that you could make from discarded corn
[14:03] <Meadows> because corn is inefficient
[14:03] <Meadows> they're actively developing other ways
[14:03] <Meadows> and they SHOULD
[14:03] <sfxer> uhh, we don't have enough corn is my point.
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> They?
[14:03] <xXbrandanXx666> Who is they, Meadows?
[14:03] <Meadows> biofuel researchers
[14:04] <sfxer> we have enough corn to replace a little over a 1/3 of our oil need.
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Where?
[14:04] <Meadows> last I was reading, they tried to make fuel from cellulose directly
[14:04] <sfxer> and if we did that
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Which biofuel researchers?
[14:04] <sfxer> we'd have no food
[14:04] <Candlejack> We can't do it yet, but ways to process the WHOLE cob is being worked on
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> You're an Internet genius, Meadows.
[14:04] <Meadows> if I remembered the names of everyone, xXbrandanXx666, I'd be a fscking idiot
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Damn the real world.
[14:04] <Meadows> just go to arstechnica daily and you'll be smarter
[14:04] <Meadows> it IS the real world
[14:04] <Meadows> idiot
[14:04] <Meadows> maybe there will be still oil by the time you're dead, but fcuk your kids, right? obviously
[14:04] <xXbrandanXx666> Keep dreaming.
[14:04] <Meadows> and I'm shortsighted
[14:04] <Meadows> pathetic
[14:04] <Meadows> you're pitiful
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> One day the U.S. will have power, and your grandchildren will be begging for meat pies.
[14:05] <Samomysl> And your upset, Meadows.
[14:05] <Candlejack> There's also the option of making cars more efficient, but that won't happen unless the secret contracts
between the oil companies and car manufacturers goes away
[14:05] <Meadows> yes I am, Sam
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> From a wood burning oven.
[14:05] <Meadows> this guy is ridiculous
[14:05] <Meadows> r
[14:05] <Meadows> i
[14:05] <Meadows> d
[14:05] <Meadows> i
[14:05] <Meadows> c
[14:05] <Meadows> u
[14:05] <Meadows> l
[14:05] <Meadows> o
[14:05] <Meadows> u
[14:05] <Meadows> s
[14:05] <xXbrandanXx666> Please sir, spare a pork pie for my sister?
[14:05] <Samomysl> So that's how it's spelt.
[14:05] <Meadows> yes, why yes it is
[14:06] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666, "one day the US will have power"?
[14:06] <Candlejack> My dads unimog has better fucking mileage than a ford pick up.
[14:06] * Q sets mode: +b *!*@cpe-66-61-48-166.neo.res.rr.com
[14:06] * Candlejack was kicked by Q (3hr Tempban)
[14:06] <Meadows> keep dreaming
[14:06] * Tu is now known as TuboRgAz
[14:07] <Samomysl> This thought is scary, Meadows, but it seems to me that you're slowly becoming me.
[14:08] <Meadows> what makes you believe so?
[14:08] <xXbrandanXx666> Meadows, when the U.S. is burning oil for electricity, you will be a dirty old man on a street corner
preaching to the world the coming of the natural resources revolution.
[14:08] <Lam> Samomysl: CZEGO!!!
[14:08] <Samomysl> You're doing what I have been doing for past two years now. Trolling, making people swear and get kicked when
they don't want to...
[14:08] <xXbrandanXx666> As your country burns wood for warmth.
[14:09] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666, the US is already burning oil for electricity
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[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> That's right, Meadows.
[14:09] <Meadows> at least any time they're not burning coal and killing workers with it
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> Killing workers?
[14:09] <Meadows> so I don't get your point
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> Clean coal provides safe power to the country.
[14:09] <Meadows> coal power kills more people than all other forms of power combined, and it's still in use
[14:09] <Meadows> clean coal is an oxymoron
[14:09] <xXbrandanXx666> It is the most clean technology ever invented.
[14:09] <Lam> Samomysl: that's BS
[14:10] <Meadows> nuclear is the cleanest source of power today
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> You could put a clean coal processing plant in a hospital and nobody would know.
[14:10] <Meadows> and the least hazardous
[14:10] <Meadows> causes the least amount of cancer
[14:10] <Meadows> operates with the highest yield
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> Is it? Let's ask Japan and Russia about that.
[14:10] <Samomysl> Why Russia?
[14:10] <xXbrandanXx666> They will tell you "No, Meadows, indeed it is not."
[14:10] <Meadows> because Japan is already working on Fusion, and because Russians don't heat
[14:10] <Meadows> who are they?
[14:10] <Meadows> xxb
[14:10] <Meadows> xXbrandanXx666,
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> Russia, the country.
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> And Japan.
[14:11] <Meadows> where will they say that?
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> All of its citizens.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> They will say it on IRC.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> When you grow the courage to ask.
[14:11] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> When you don't hide behind your theoretical criticisms of the people who provide for you the comforts
that allow you to argue against them so vehemently on the Internet.
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> :(
[14:11] <Meadows> you do realise you're full of shit, right?
[14:11] <Meadows> I mean, you have got to realise it at some point
[14:11] <xXbrandanXx666> You are so rude and crude.
[14:12] <Samomysl> I do now.
[14:12] <Meadows> arguing against nuclear power is possibly the weakest stance you can ever take
[14:12] <Meadows> and you just took it
[14:12] <Meadows> you must realise you're full of it
[14:12] <Samomysl> Your.
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Nuclear power is an aberration in the eyes of God.
[14:12] <Meadows> I see, you're trolling
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Trolling?
[14:12] <Meadows> nobody takes power and religion seriously at the same time
[14:12] <Meadows> you're just trolling
[14:12] <xXbrandanXx666> Is that what it means when anybody has an opinion that is different than yours?
[14:12] <Meadows> end of discussion, it's been fun
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> You lack respect for disparate ideas.
[14:13] <Meadows> go back to 4chan and troll someplace else
[14:13] <Meadows> so Sam, where were we
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> That's so typical.
[14:13] <Samomysl> You're becoming me, that is, the main troll of this channel.
[14:13] <Samomysl> That's my thought.
[14:13] <xXbrandanXx666> You lack a valid premise, and so you toss out the red herring/ad hominems.
[14:13] <Meadows> you're like David Hasselhoff, Sam
[14:14] <Meadows> as in, I would never want to become you
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> Once again the U.S. triumphs in the face of adversity.
[14:14] <Meadows> okay, I will bite, xXbrandanXx666, but only because you're a sparkling fag
[14:14] <Samomysl> Hey, isn't that you, sotrix?
[14:14] <Meadows> where is this God whose eyes you're talking about
[14:14] <Meadows> since you clearly can't raise a valid argument against nuclear
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> Where is he?
[14:14] <Meadows> yes
[14:14] <Meadows> [citation needed]
[14:14] <xXbrandanXx666> He is all around, in everything.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> No?
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> He's in you, and in me.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> Over there.
[14:15] <Meadows> no
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> Right here.
[14:15] <Meadows> where is he
[14:15] * Meadows ([email protected]) Quit (Killed (*.quakenet.org (You are violating network rules, ID:
42742961)))
[14:15] * TuboRgAz ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout)
[14:15] <xXbrandanXx666> GG.
[14:15] <Samomysl> Buy, buy, Meadows.
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[14:15] <Meadows> still can't hear you
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Whoa, he is risen.
[14:16] <Meadows> waiting for the answer
[14:16] <Meadows> you have yet to provide it
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Which answer?
[14:16] <Samomysl> Moses supposes his toes are roses.
[14:16] <Meadows> where this "god" aberration of your mind resides
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> A lack of evidence is not evidence.
[14:16] <markusarailias> from who
[14:16] <Meadows> exactly, xXbrandanXx666
[14:16] <Meadows> that's why I'm demanding evidence, not a lack of it
[14:16] <xXbrandanXx666> Evidence of what?
[14:17] <Meadows> good lord your attention span's short as your penis
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> The very premise of God is that he needs not be evident.
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> You're not allowing yourself to accept that premise, because you are afraid.
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> Your cowardice is evident.
[14:17] <Meadows> any other excuses you have read that conveniently sidestep the burden of having to explain god?
[14:17] <markusarailias> i agree
[14:17] <Meadows> I would love to hear the rest of them
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> I don't have to explain God, and why should I?
[14:17] <Meadows> because you believe in him
[14:17] <xXbrandanXx666> So?
[14:17] <Meadows> I can explain every single thing I believe in
[14:17] <markusarailias> farmers dont play quakelive
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> You can?
[14:18] <Meadows> if you believe in something you can't explain, it's either in your head, or it's a superstition
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> Explain the chemical process by which ethanol is derived.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> Starting with the beginning of the universe.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> As Carl Sagan might say.
[14:18] <Meadows> I'll read up on it
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> No you won't.
[14:18] <Meadows> and then I will be able to
[14:18] <Meadows> but no matter how much you read up on god, you will not be able to explain him
[14:18] <Samomysl> Honor is neither in my head, nor a superstition.
[14:18] <markusarailias> i can explain it all but not here its a long story
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> You'll pretend to, then in typically lazy fashion just assume you're correct for the sake of your ego.
[14:18] <xXbrandanXx666> While the rest of the world works to provide you with your comforts.
[14:19] <markusarailias> oh no sir i have partners too
[14:19] <Meadows> I will disallow you to change the topic back
[14:19] <Meadows> explain god
[14:19] <xXbrandanXx666> I could just as well explain magic.
[14:19] <Meadows> I'm impervious to many forms of trolling, so go ahead
[14:19] <xXbrandanXx666> How could the fish explain the ocean, Meadows?
[14:19] <Meadows> nobody's asking them
[14:19] <eraser> magic is an illusion tho
[14:19] <Meadows> I'm asking you to explain god
[14:19] <markusarailias> adobe, microsoft, utube, facebook ect
[14:19] <eraser> it doesnt claim to be real
[14:19] <Meadows> so stick to it, or leave the channel
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> Whoa.
[14:20] <markusarailias> quakenetr
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You are not the lord of #quakelive.
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> To dictate who may stay.
[14:20] <markusarailias> no sir
[14:20] <Samomysl> Correct.
[14:20] <Samomysl> I am.
[14:20] <Meadows> irrelevant
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You present either/or fallacies while you pretend to care for logic and argumentation.
[14:20] <markusarailias> samomysl partner
[14:20] <Meadows> I asked you a question, and you have taken every opportunity in existence to sidestep it
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> Your mind is flawed.
[14:20] <Meadows> if there's any weakness to focus on, it's with you
[14:20] <xXbrandanXx666> You are sick, Meadows. Probably possessed.
[14:21] <markusarailias> ask him
[14:21] <Meadows> allow me to ask again, explain god
[14:21] * markusarailias is now known as nighttimepunk
[14:21] <Meadows> feel free to sidestep it once more
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I told you, Meadows. You may just as well ask a fish to explain the ocean.
[14:21] <Meadows> exactly
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I am but a slippery fish.
[14:21] <Meadows> let's try again: explain god
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> I live within one region of the ocean, that which supports me and that which I may see.
[14:21] <nighttimepunk> ok ill explain , im boss you player
[14:21] <xXbrandanXx666> What can I say even of sharks, let alone of whales?
[14:22] <Meadows> nothing, I asked you to explain god
[14:22] <Meadows> you might as well give it your best shot
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> My best shot would fall infinitely far from God's greatness.
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> It would be an insult to our lord.
[14:22] <Meadows> invalid reply - how about this: explain god
[14:22] <nighttimepunk> cant help but try , its all embeded
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> Mine will not be the fingers to sully his good name.
[14:22] <Meadows> he doesn't have a good name, I think god is pretty terrible on the tongue
[14:22] <eraser> are you a creationist?
[14:22] <xXbrandanXx666> Suffice to say, Meadows, your expectation that God can be explained is begging the question.
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> yea your right
[14:23] <Meadows> there's no question to beg
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> You are, for all your professions of logic, an illogical person.
[14:23] <Meadows> you're begging MY question
[14:23] <Meadows> instead of answering it
[14:23] <Meadows> where is god?
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> but at the same time your pretty worthless too
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Full of spiteful ad hominem and ignorance-embracing bifurcation.
[14:23] <Meadows> invalid reply, where is god?
[14:23] <nighttimepunk> wise guy huh
[14:23] <eraser> if you believe in god
[14:23] <eraser> isnt it like a sin
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> A troll, obfuscating valuable conversation with your Wikipedia education.
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Go back to 4chan, Meadows.
[14:23] <eraser> to have the 'devils number' in your name?
[14:23] <xXbrandanXx666> Where you belong.
[14:24] <Meadows> an education is better than none, xXbrandanXx666
[14:24] <Meadows> I bet if I believed in god, I could even tell you what he is
[14:24] <nighttimepunk> im at the top where i belong
[14:24] <Meadows> I'm a well read person
[14:24] <xXbrandanXx666> Please, tell us more about yourself, Meadows.
[14:24] <xXbrandanXx666> You sound like a very interesting person.
[14:24] <eraser> can you answer my question xXbrandanXx666?
[14:24] <Meadows> change of subject not allowed
[14:24] <Meadows> tell us where god is
[14:24] <nighttimepunk> hes a snipe hunter
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> eraser, 666 is not the number of the beast.
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> God is everywhere, Meadows.
[14:25] <Samomysl> 777 is.
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> In everything.
[14:25] * chumbo`off is now known as chumbo
[14:25] <eraser> god is camping railgun on dm6
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> I've answered three times now.
[14:25] <Meadows> he must be from string theory then
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> You refuse my answer without consideration.
[14:25] <Meadows> how many dimensions is he traversing?
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> So, you believe in string theory?
[14:25] <xXbrandanXx666> All dimensions, Meadows, obviously.
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Are you so simple that this concept eludes you?
[14:26] <eraser> does god have a beard?
[14:26] <Meadows> lol
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Yes, a great beard.
[14:26] <Meadows> good one
[14:26] <Meadows> does he wear slippers?
[14:26] <eraser> wicked
[14:26] <Meadows> does he have hands, feet, or a nose?
[14:26] <@SyncError|home> +m ?
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Yes and no.
[14:26] <Meadows> does he have hair?
[14:26] <Meadows> I wonder if god needs glasses
[14:26] <nighttimepunk> lol its the beard tv
[14:26] <Meadows> does he wear a toga or a cape?
[14:26] <xXbrandanXx666> Both and none.
[14:26] <Meadows> how old is god?
[14:27] <Meadows> why would he make adam and eve?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> As old as everything and young as nothing.
[14:27] <Meadows> and why wouldn't eve love wall-e at first?
[14:27] <eraser> how old is everything?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> How can I claim to speak for God's decisions?
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> How old is nothing, eraser?
[14:27] <eraser> nothing has no age
[14:27] <Meadows> nothing is nothing
[14:27] <eraser> cos its nothing
[14:27] <Meadows> it's a logical construct used to describe void
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> Void is nothing?
[14:27] <Meadows> like a point in geometry
[14:27] <Meadows> a point doesn't exist
[14:27] <Meadows> it's a logical construct to denote a position in a system
[14:27] <xXbrandanXx666> So God is a point?
[14:27] <Meadows> same with "nothing"
[14:27] <Meadows> nothing is nothing
[14:27] * MG|tucker ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: EOF from client)
[14:28] <xXbrandanXx666> A position in no space?
[14:28] <nighttimepunk> its a distraction to the supernova about to come
[14:28] <Meadows> one day you will learn to read, and stop taking lines out of context
[14:28] <Meadows> until then, I will leave you bewildered
[14:28] <xXbrandanXx666> One day you will learn to speak, and not regurgitate concepts you've briefly glanced over on Wikipedia
and Reddit athiesm forums.
[14:28] <nighttimepunk> meadows you need some weed
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> We are brothers, Meadows.
[14:29] <Meadows> I don't visit reddit
[14:29] <Meadows> no we're not
[14:29] <Meadows> if we were, you'd get beat up
[14:29] <Samomysl> Sisters, then.
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Brothers under God's love.
[14:29] <Meadows> where is god
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Everywhere, Meadows, and nowhere.
[14:29] <Meadows> oxymoron
[14:29] <Meadows> where is god
[14:29] <xXbrandanXx666> Precisely.
[14:29] <nighttimepunk> withen the entity
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> You denounce me for your own inability to understand basic concepts of the universe.
[14:30] <Meadows> we can keep going on like this, it's quite entertaining I have to admit
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> It is sad to watch, and I pity you, but I love you.
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> Brother.
[14:30] <Meadows> watching you scrambling to pull together some argument
[14:30] <Meadows> then failing midways
[14:30] <Samomysl> Failing meadows.
[14:30] <Meadows> even worse, you claim to love a stranger, as one of christian fame
[14:30] <xXbrandanXx666> You remind me of myself when I was young, Meadows.
[14:30] <nighttimepunk> but what was that but mere failure of discontent
[14:31] <Meadows> famous for being the most hateful, spiteful and prejudiced people in the world
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> Impressionable, enthusiastic to show the world my intelligence.
[14:31] <Meadows> right next to muslims
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> Then I found God's infinite love.
[14:31] <Meadows> you know nothing about love
[14:31] <Meadows> nothing at all
[14:31] * xXbrandanXx666 hugs Meadows.
[14:31] <Samomysl> Guys, you make too much sense.
[14:31] <xXbrandanXx666> The universe is not a cold, dead place.
[14:31] * SyncError|home sets mode: +m
[14:31] <@SyncError|home> And that wraps up today's amazing lesson on Theology.
[14:32] <@SyncError|home> Everyone do your homework and have completed your assigned reading before next week's lesson.
[14:32] * SyncError|home sets mode: -m
[14:32] <nighttimepunk> next week you wont see me
[14:33] <Meadows> I will try my damnedest to miss you
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