4th place gets a back RUB?

bump AND PUT time when it starts.

I think reaper is from ukraine

Would love to hear a bit more information about this cup.

Need to start organising coverage etc..

Spart1e and Cooller same group - classic already. Pavel having bad luck with his group, while Cypher has the easiest again.

Looking on all groups, only C has room for competition between ash and amai for 2nd place.

Gonna miss all.
VODs asap, please.

And don't fail this time with stream, Shadow. Thanks.

group d and c are $$$, cooller vs spartie should be good too

Nice, looking forward to this.

Will watch for sure. =)

Where is shedule of group C and D?

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Timezone: Europe/Warsaw
:|

You gotta respect elders!

The shedule at the "c58 coverage" link is full.

Put your bets, ladies.

wasn't agent banned from asus? or am i mistaken and it was someone else *confused*

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2122097#pid2122097

well its online so its just another zotac for strenx... the only guy that can do smth about it is agent.

i think cypher, strenx and av3k are in Kiev atm..

Lotnik !!!!

ill prolly cast this :x

We'll prolly watch, then.

[+] that post, for asus's sake!

TIMES ARE WRONG. CHECK coverage.

HoQ stream lagging a lot for me

press the HD button to switch to SD.. if its ur internet, then ur fucked.

The HoQ caster is pretty good

Anyone have c58 stream? I clicked that link on main post and cant find the stream..

What a fucking disgrace... 40 minutes past tournament start - no main judge (shadow), no av3k/strenx/cypher/pavel on irc channel and apparently no cooller on asus :X

And no pavel, the guy is busy at work ...

haha nice

yeah cooller wont't play again

<c58|uaShadow`> NO ASUS TODAY - COOLLER CANCELED IT
<c58|uaShadow`> WE ARE OFF TO DRINK VODKA AND EAT BORSCH

[11:21:15] * c58|uaShadow` is now known as kK-Storm

:D

y u so mean??? :'((

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

BRAVO BRAVO

<SPARTSSON> [11:32:09] strenxounet: we failed we drank a little too much so we woke up late
<SPARTSSON> [11:32:39] spart1e: hehe.are u at hotel or the internet cafee now ?
<SPARTSSON> [11:32:54] strenxounet: ye flat
<SPARTSSON> [11:32:55] strenxounet: with shadow
<SPARTSSON> [11:32:59] strenxounet: cypher and avek

"update: group A and B are postponed to 14 msk in spite of _technical difficulties_" OLOLOL R U DRUKNED KEKEKE

Looking good so far

[13:07] <mouz`Cooller> im in.,

lol kyto :D

So, only Guard vs alfaomega and kyto vs agent have been played or I am missing something else ?

I bet Shadow will force them to replay the games as he said in irc:
<c58IuaShadow> GROUPS A AND B delayed for 2 hours and start right now

Too much raging but GG anyways. Need a break from this game, if anyone sees me online on QL please tell me to get out.

btw this is the correct c58 link with the streams, someone correct it in the post

http://cyberfight.ru/site/news/80301/

strenx not to quakecon that would be a bitchmove from them..

??

http://www.facebook.com/strenx/posts/135251609894766

omg

who's the guy casting with issue on hoq? zsx?

zoot

what were cypher and reaper talking about on t4??

lmao ^

?

cya cooller :X

wat happen? he lost to slimk?

Lost to slimk 2:1.

haha.... no words

luck all times.

Hi! Cooller lost to... WHO? Cooller lost to... WHAT?
Cooller lost to... Slim K

cya cooller :X

cooller has to be angry :)

thats what happens when u think i gonna win.
In other words he didnt respect opponent and didnt played so good and hes messing around failed him.

or maybe amai is just playing great today?

or maybe amai is just fucking awesome

hes showing better and better resaults with every lan he manages to take maps from strenx and avek i think next asus he might have a chance be in top 3 if hes gonna play

amai 3 : 0 slimk

btw

wp amai vs avek :))

derQuaker Coverage: Groupstage, Playoffs

amai for quakecon!

I be there (c) tonny

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good games by amai... these rails at t7 mh to break av3k comeback were gold

who is slimk and how does he dare?

1. Ashton Kutcher
2. Avek
3. Strenxie

damn i suppose i missed an epic final ;x

it's not over yet

I noticed.

damn strenx just schooled cypher on toxicity :)

cypher strenx is crazy

strenx' shaft is back on \o/

cypher outaimed him by far..

ok zadrot ebaniy

u win

I don't know how toxjq can beat strenx -.-
Strenx is a sick aim and timing machine :/

dismembershit ---

someone can to upload DEMOS FILES this tournament, please?

i dont belive how brain dead strenx can be :|

Why? Those attacks weren't bad and he was prolly on tilt because cypher didn't die hence the on going +fwd.

if something is not working u dont repeat it till its 12-2 :X

Well he had the timings of both powerups and new about cypher's stack. So those first attacks weren't bad at all. Could have gone either way and I assume strenx was just pissed because he took calculated risks which didn't pay off in the end.

I don't agree, he's rushing on dism was good. Cypher was 1 and 6 hp sometimes so... even if score wasn't close the overall match was.

Cypher had 1 hp, and 5 hp, 2 situations which definetly could have turned the game into strenx favor, so I wouldnt call it "brain dead".

pretty lucky for cypher to survive with 1\6 hps

PUTAIN DE TA MÈRE DE PUTAIN DE CHANCEUX DE MERDE!!!

Nice HoQ stream. Very enjoyable, props guys.

Cast is awesome, but quality not too good.

was reduced so other are able to watch ;]

I really like zoot. lvl^ should get him to cast more shit

zoot is the perfect balance for ishju. His voice and tone is almost exactly like zsx.

He even has some good ability to cast stratagems and action.

To be matched with ishju who is flamboyant and excitable, while zoot is calm and rational, its like a black and white cookie. Very balanced and entertaining cast.

Lack of streamers for us, unfortunately zoot can't stream with his connection.

GJ i woke up then eh! ;]

Agreed!
gj & thx zoot

I'm flamboyant. :D Playing more duel helped me to improve my casting I think. :) Props to zoot for literally casting all of this!

gg

u so flambo !

<3

your laughter is so cool, it reminds me of The Room's Johnny. :D

rofl - I really don't know what that is i'm afraid!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_%28film%29

you gotta watch this. ;)

"The Room has been cited by some critics as one of the worst films ever made"

Don't really know how to take this now xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhrd1R8-dBg

your way of laughing reminded me of him :b

rofl xD

Holy shit, I thought it was zsx. Great job then, zoot ;D

strenx memory is pretty short and he can't really make any effective/surprising traps so he rides on his aim

cypher on the other hand...

cypher is just aim heavy...he's heavy even for strenx...
strenx has item timing.on toxicity strenx had mega and red all the time and everytime he survived with 20 hp..strenx has great timing so i don't know what u mean with short memory..

basicaly it was Cypher's ridicule vs Strenx's textbook...

amai is a beast on hub

who is this idiot advertising dr kurpatov all the time? =D
and who is dr kurpatov? =D

cypher's a fucking ninja :D

Cypher vs Avek @ aero. NICE!

gg av3k, well deserved

gg avek:)

the way cypher plays it really weird..he just leaves control, like 90% of the time he's out of control:P you can't play toxicity like that:)

ye he deffo plays off the items too much on the map :D hitting crazy accs but not winning :x

avek = boss

Props to ischju, bob and zoot.

I am not sure the srs boys were playing seriously or trying out strategies but on hub and dm13 av3k actually out brained cypher.

yAAY for avek :)
awesome bo5s..
also, how drunkered was issue lol?

i wasent man. i just got up and was drunk on sleep.

Ahh that explains it.. It was just funny, something simple would happen and you were like WOAH.. How.. what WAS THAT?? Also "teams are tied" in duel (c) both of you guys :))

But great stuff of course, thanks guys :)

Congratulations AVEK! Great skill with some magic actions like always.

Cypher prolly wasn't going to school to learn timing, he was learning quake. That's why he can't time ANYthing.

He is very smart, he's game looks godlike. But avek just outplayed him easly by timing.

Look at acc stats from this matches... cypher had better acc and loosed 3:1, becouse of timing.

and??winning matters! cypher's gamestyle is nice to watch but he lost and also cypher baits items alot that's why the high accuracies.
Avek owned him and strenx was also very close;)

u dont like cypha?

actually i'm a fan but i think that it's stupid posting excusses for him. he played stupidly and lost end of story. just like cooller, well cooller played really dumm.

Man im his fan too, im just pointing the obvious mistake that cypher is making. I know he can replace this by his other advantages like aim, positioning, movement... overall gameplay.

In other words: if he would time always 1 item + 2 sometimes, he could win avek on this asus, especially on toxicity.

he times item, but unlike most of players he dont use the stack to get kills, he's rather dealing dmg and restacking at item he left...

av3k on the other hand is cutting you off any armour and health, forcing you to play with shards and 5hp bubbles

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Poland ftw

if there was an anti-doping test in QL, Avekk would not have even entered this tournament

like if there would be an anti-humorous test here, youd be banned from the site

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asus cups always deliver good games

GJ guys all vods will be up shortly 10 + hours @ HoQtv ,Enjoy

WP avekkk

Good Job guys from HoQ TV!

Good stream.Thx guys.

Thanks for the VODs!

But please don't give away the result in the same post as the VOD link -- I was hoping to go in cold but now I know the winnner :((

Where are the demos of the finals?

All i see is part 1-6 which is groupstage...

any vods past part 6? last game i see is strenx vs lotn1k

gj on the excellent stream :)

yeah own3d failed me probably wont use it again =/// if they don't fix it .... i have linked the holysh1t vod's in the comments on the page (look right) sorry about that!

Is that a tambourine I hear on the holysh1t Zotac cast in the background?

rofl i have no clue mate ask FOR3CAS7

very good games, also good coverage both hoq and c58.
congrats to avek, wp !!

hmmm... ok

gratz av3k! thesedays asus lans are played online? :)

they all have to cut back :)

some are online, some are LAN(which dont gather much players being held in Ukraine)

Where did everyone read/see that cypher doesnt time items?

Thanks to Zoot, Ischju and bob for a marathon of a stream. Great games and great commentary.

You all exhausted my voice - was nice to see so many people watch a stream.

GG Avek - excellent games from everyone :)

Yeah your amateur shout casting exhausted me to the point of suicide , thanks for that

L2mute

You should be happy I'm a lover not a fighter.If I was you I would be

come and do a better job ?

I am confused... everytime when cypher plays vs avek/rapha he seems like he is gonna loose control/biggest items in the first moments, still self-confidence problems? I dont know what to say.. gg Avek :)

cypher doesnt play in control in a way like av3k or cooller does... but i can assure you - he gains advantage from not picking up items.... and lets remember av3k is crazy when it comes to major items, and he can push in with 20 hp and steal ur armour


imo cypher has got the most unique gamestyle at the moment...

I dont know if not picking the items in ql is a advantage, in cpma it was less important factor I think cause of stronger weapons.

Look at t7, cypher was hiding almost all the time, do you think he likes to play this way comparing to cpma where he was killing-machine? :) He didnt want to risk, Avek had all.

well... he won last 2 lans, that means something :D

he uses items as a bait to his opponents, and does a lot of hit and run... hits a rail, takes some dmg, falls back to pick up item he left... its also fuckin up timings a lot, cause every item is delayed...

I think that's how ql tourney should look.

Nice covearage. Almost everything right with shedule. Every game streamed.

And also every single game was so exciting to watch... imo even more than games from draemhack.

i can only find the last map of Cooller fail @ the Ruskis, HoQ was ready for it but the players went to diff. server and something else was streamed

Amai got the back RUB?

i thought Battleforged wasnt in the map rotation?

i think the vod you saw is old and was uploaded by mistake

more vods on uaShadow channel at own3d

Nice little tourney. Some good games.

On a side-note, how many forfeited games were there? I'm telling you guys, forfeiting is a cancer that needs to be cut out of the game. No one enjoys playing a game with no hope of winning, and even fewer people enjoy watching one. The literal practice of forfeiting is a painkiller, not a cure. Every game is better, when there is always a fair and legitimate chance for all players to win. If the game is decided after 1 minute, even though there are 9 minutes left, sponsors are gone, as are the audiences they are trying to reach.

if ur bad u lose 20 frags in first minute, making it impossible to win for you...

lol comment

forfeiting > wasting peoples time

It's because of timelimit 10, make it 15 and it will change everything

Nope it isn't becouse of that. Imagine that if u have 10:0 for opponent on 10 and 15 minutes and it's 1-2 mins to the end. You are over in both situations. (depends on map too)

So better to quit that play the game wich has not sens, becouse you know that you loose.

ugh, cant stand toxshit

any vods from final?

why bother looking when u can ask

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what a complete give away by cypher, his whole attitude toward his games vs av3k and rapha before is wrong. It's like he's giving up challenging items against those players unless he's completely sure he made enough damage in the previous fight to get them without taking a risk, and that's not very smart considering his combat skills which outshines every player today. he's dealing tons of damage throughout the game but av3k just keeps restocking fast and dealing alot of damage himself, cypher can't beat av3k which is not that far behind in combat skill, if he keeps playing like a coward against him. bating items would perhaps work against 99% of the players with that skill gap but against av3k/rapha the skill gap just isn't high enough for this gamestyle to work, you need to rely on more then your aim/movement/prediction/positioning against them.

who won last two lans? who is top1/2 player in quake for 3-4 years now? oh wait, it's cypher! OK LET'S TEACH HIM! :)))))))))

probably split cash too

??

combine first and 2nd prize, split between the 2***

who's losing to av3k and rapha in 80% of the games? oh wait, it's cypher!

hey retard, being top 3 player in the world dosen't make you a perfect player. cypher potential is so high and he's covering for bad decisions with his aim and combat skills, usually it works, it dosen't mean he can't get even better when he will be a little less damage-output dependant in his games.

it's like my grandmother teaching M.Schumacher to drive F1. YOU ARE DUMB.

Based on the recent performance of Schumacher, he probably needs that :)

I don't think so. It depends on that how much skilled Guard's mother is in f1.

You are a blind retarded and you probably have nothing well-established enough to reply my arguments with so you call me dumb. I'm not trying to teach cypher how to play, but you don't need to be a genious to see that he got flaws in his game that are being expressed well vs players like av3k and rapha.

ok. give cooller tip/advise to aim like strenx, 45% lg and 65% rail. Or give killsen advise to play more brain like cooller. They can't use your tips, becose one of them just can't aim so good, and other just can't do insane desidions in game. Every player picks his "weapon" to fight agains best of best.
They are playing this game for so long, they choosed them style, they adapted to that style. Ofcors you can improve your game, thats why players watching demos and practising not just for aim , shape is everything, aim, movement, thinking, timing...

As I wrote before. Players can't have every skill at highest level, they have weakness. Why rapha playins slower with more +back and it's works very good, why strenx trys to pick lg / rail battles, coz he knows his aim is insane, but not small coridors rocket battles, why cooller push so hard and keeps control, coz he knows his aim is not superb, thats why he needs to eat a lot of armors.
And again, look to cypher vs strenx @ last zotac, he flyed in a map, aimed insane, wasn't "afraind" at all. As I wrote, you have sometimes shit days, or you feel weaker in some positons agains some sort of players, etc cypher maybe feels shit in some combats against rapha and avek. It's not like you can rush in a room, kill avek, take armor. You can eat a lot shit, even avek have 30 hp.
Ok nevermind, its my last post about this.
ps. coollers aim is not shit, and strenx are not totaly dumb, just weaker then others top top.

Top Aimer (cypher)
Top brainer (rapha)

Give cypher the ability to time 4 items and he will be the best quaker ever.

more items timed + remembered -> more correct decisions on health/stack which means cypher essentially becomes rapha.

This is easier than rapha becoming cypher because cypher is all reflexes and prediction, which is harder than learning memory skills.

man..who knows what was cypher thinking like in game vs avek..i thing he intentionally played like that. he's over that "too much respect for rapha and avek" thing.. and like guard said, cypher knows how to play quake.

stop with that ignorance please. you can say the same thing about players like stermy, toxjc, spartie which aren't tier 1 and still "know how to play quake" - it dosen't make their game flawless and it dosen't mean they got nowhere to improve.

he loses 80% of his games against those 2, luckily for him you're here to tell him what to do, since you have such a better win ratio against them.
and if you seriously think that his decisions are _bad_ and the only thing keeping him away from being raped is his raw aim then you're retarded, i'm sorry i'm the one who has to tell you but that's the truth

Do I have to be a top quake player to be able to analyze games? what a complete moron. good job taking pieces of what i wrote and replying to them ignoring the rest, if you would read you would see i never wrote cypher is all aim - just relying on DAMAGE RATIO more then timing and preventing major items from his opponents.

covering for bad decisions with his aim and combat skills

this sounds a lot like saying he's all aim to me :\

sure you can analize demos and share your opinions about what were the player's bad decisions, but being in the game making them is another thing.
you just sounded rather arrogant in these posts, being a random anonymous doesn't help either.

That doesn't means he cant improve (cypher) :D

We all know that. No limits for everything in world, you can improve till infinity.
Just cypher is master of quake, he only one can sit, watch games, think and improve. Or maybe 4-8 max players in world who can give him tips, but he won't listen to them I guess too :))
Ppl could comment like that, if they could watch cyphers games with his comments and he should sound like: "Ok , I am afrain of avek, I will leave all items to him and will try to do miracle to win". But I guess he thinks different.
And sometimes you feel you can't chalange in some sort of fights that given day, so you choose different tactic.
Etc my gameplay for 95% ppl looks like 100% arcade, rush rush rush, but If I could comment it with good english, you would see it's a lot different shit.
Quake is unique, players PICKS styles, you can't have all best skill set (cypher and few are not far from it). Etc strenx are aim heavy + good timer, cooller brain master + good control and so on...

cypher is aim heavy, always was. When his aim wasn't on top, he couldn't even win jibo. k1llsen has already proved that aim and basic timing and strats can go u very far (his aim isn't as consistent as cypher’s though).

strenx is not aim only, he plays smart for a while now

best timer in EU as weird as it might sound is spart1e (just watch him play having this in ur mind)

ye spartie said it himself that he's an armour eater but he's shaky..look at his lg sometimes. btw anyone knows how to get rid of shakyness i have same problems with lg..:S

m_filter 1 or cg_filter_angles 0.03 to make lg smooth and easier to aim if ur actual hand/eye/mouse/pad sucks.

If ur hand is steady and u have nice monitor/mousepad/mouse then use m_filter 0, and u will have the smoothness of m_filter 1 + the extra aim-ability that comes with feeling the rawness of the mouse on 0.

Of course have good usb hz 500/1000hz and 125fps but no shit.

Tnx man, i'll put my mouse on 500hz. i already use m_filter 1. thing is that my nerves get to me in some battles.:S

everything you wrote is WRONG :))

so I was consistent through the whole post.

you, on the other hand, are all rush rush rush :P
You rushed to reply to my post with whatever came to ur mind first.
Might be a good rush, but was a rush nonetheless.

do the commentary in lithuanian; find someone to subtitle it et voila!

NOW. :-P

Just wondering why this thread isn't more like:
[anonymous poster knocking] - "Hello who is it? What's that? No thanks, don't need any, not interested"
[GUArd knocking] - "Yea I know who you are. Yep, yep, I know, you regularly duel the players you have opinions about, seen it. Sure, I'll give ya a few minutes and consider what you have to say, come in"

so who won?

avek

I was away this weekend, couldn't update the post.

Anyone with VOD/brackets links? :)

I never found the vods of the finals, chuck me a link if you get them.

Maybe i'm just retarded but i don't see htem in the HoQ own3d site.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/169480

Where are the vods for the playoffs?