it's no excuse to verbally abuse anybody, especially random people on the internet who don't give a shit about me, and will probably just make fun of me and treat me like some gimmick personality affixed to the community
i mostly care about my lack of self-control/discipline from the standpoint of personal betterment and goodness
valid concern
but to a lesser degree my reputation, if only because negative relationships are detrimental to opportunity and consistent enjoyment of social activities
oh come on, it's a game ffs. raging idiots have always been a part of quake. it's not like i judge people based on the fact that they call me something ingame
so you are really allowing people who you'll likely never meet again to inhibit your personality. controlling it is good, but you are doing it for the wrong reasons
I talk shit for the same reason, most of my frustration stems from my inability to replicate my skills (circa 06/07, to now - on a laptop compared to a fully fledged desktop/crt setup).
I don't know what its like the states but in australia there is a big newfag trend to spam 'u mad' at any comment made in a game, be it negative or even constructive (eg, "nice, wish I wasn't sitting there").
Personally, I think most people have lost the sense for irony that I remember being quite prevalent when I was more active. Talking shit use to be a marker for the type of player you were. Sort of like how certain footballers have that mean streak about them (see: Gattuso @ACMilan).
the way i see it, and like everyone else I get outbursts of anger (although admittedly hardly ever now!). You need to play the game and if the player hits you with a lucky shot or catches you off guard it's either A) your fault for a reason or B) the other player is better.
But getting angry is pointless. You should think of it this way... Did i play as good as I could have. If yes then you shouldn't be angry, if no then you should re-evaluate your style of play and try work on that rather then getting angry. I found unbinding the chat button and removing console chat, also removing enemy chat helps my game :D
i love it when that happens and ppl claim they aimed for it. (mostly because you just happened to walk/run/fly into a room where a teammate was in a fight with that person =P
but then again, i play CA so that says enough about the players i play against =]
or instead of staying and fighting run away and spam nades from the next room. (preferably pushing your mates into enemy fire when they try to retreat)
i used to have a 'sure' bind and spam it all the time haha, how sad.
lately i'm trying to play people who are undoubtedly better than me, so i expect them to outplay me in every possible way -> i don't get mad when they do. it also makes me play more consciously and concentrate harder.
i don't really talk shit though, if i rage i keep it to myself.
also people not saying gl/hf/gg or spamming smileys or talking trash totally unnecessary fuck me up more than anything, i don't know why.
I don't get angry when I'm playing with better people, I'm usually happy if I can compete without getting destroyed.
Losing to someone I deem worse is hard, though. Even if I know I'm drunk, tired, not in the mood, or just plain playing worse at the time.
I had "poor effort." (in red mind you!) bound and I would use it all the time, even if I fucked up and did something stupid, gave the flag away or something similar.
It got to the point where I was told by a tourney admin I had to remove it. He was full of shit, I didn't.
I think most people are used to a bit of rage and wont think much of it. It's worse when you get people who can't admit they were outplayed days, weeks or years after.
I think in some situations its natural to get frustrated or angry, and everyone handles it differently. For me most of the time i'll be able to let it go -or- i'll just be distracted enough to not care cause I am thinking on what I need to do next. And when I do start to lose it, I usually remind myself that humans aren't perfect and the universe is chaos, so I may miss the RA jump on ztn from time to time. And in regards to self performance I also think its a desirable skill to be able to recover from your own mistakes quickly and keeping composure. So you could think of losing composure as a weakness, and in close quake game you want every edge you can get :D
Also just from experience if you lose composure in a game you tend to be trigger happy on the spawns. And a no think re-spawn could be a spawn rape.
And my final note - this is my motto when I duel:
When I die I ask myself -- can I learn anything from this? If I can't answer the question I move on (why waste time and energy thinking about something that you can't improve upon)
Im getting mad when opponent gets few lucky moments, and i always comment it... its ok when hes saying: "yeah i know" and I usually do same when ppl tell me i was lucky...
but i hate fuckers who win fights with like 4 hp left, and then they tell me it wasnt luck and im shit player... fuckin ego tards
I love shit talking. I talk so much shit that I think there's no way people could take the nonsense I am typing seriously, yet there's always a few people per server who get really mad. Makes the game more when you have a 'nemesis' to gun for :P
tbh half of it is probably me 'ironically' venting frustration but it's still funny
I love random shit talking and seeing the ones that go mental over it, it's just hilarious when they start trying to go after you and only you and get raped (thinking about CA here)
some games can break almost anyone though.. i remember painkiller got me at one point.. of all the players likely only ztrider never slammed his mouse into the pad :P
You basically just described my complete Quake mindset. However, i very, very rarely shit/trash-talk, usually i stay with the "rofl" or "...". It's still bad, though. I fucking HATE being frustrated at something as petty as being hit by a ridiculous shot, i try to concentrate on just playing, but it's a very, very strong feeling.
Smiley/quotes/bullshit binds help *a bit*, but often times you'll forget they even exist and will type out 'wtf" or somesuch instead. Know that from experience.
What really helps me is just shouting a few obscenities out loud and taking a short breather (few seconds, deep breath, take your eyes off the monitor). It cuts away at the negative "itch" to go full retard mode in-game, helps refocus. Seems like a simple thing to do, but takes quite a bit of self-control, actually.
in fighting games it's even more blatant because everything is on screen and you always see what your opponent is doing. so you either don't understand why you're losing or if you know what you're doing wrong, you can't help yourself but repeat those mistakes :D
the best thing to do is acknowledge this is a game you're trying to have fun with, above anything else.
the worst thing is to get irritated with people around you when you're losing.
rage is pretty common in quake and at least in cpm people know everyone rages from time to time so noone will feel offended.. its just funny when it happens..
I grew up, I don't get mad any more. Also since I've gone back to SA, I'm still going toe to toe with guys that have 2000 duels to their name and I have like 400. I think that's enough to keep me happy. If I'm playing ok I never have a bad game, even if I lose. If I'm playing bad, then I don't play.
I do get raged in CA though, wtf camp. I've actually gotten over the other team camping, now I get pissed off with my team camping. i.e. two guys hiding somewhere on the map spamming grenades, and they are the last two left every round.
Yes I know what you mean. Those kind of players are the only ones that really drive me mad. Either they go hide with rail or they go hide with nades. Probably 75% of tier4 CA players on standard servers here in Germany are like that. Then you got the prem servers with mostly former RA3 players who are, for some reason, stuck in development and act like a bunch of 14yr old. Its hard to get a nice relaxing game in QL.
My playing bad is usually not having my mind in the game. If the score is like 7 to 0 and I haven't realized it, that means I'm playing bad, because I don't really want to play. If each frag = suffering, and thinking about what to do, then I know my minds in the game.
I usually play another game type before duel, and if I play duel first, then my first game is an indication I shouldn't play again.
I suppose I'm in a unique situation since I know most of the duelers down here, if I lose to a guy 13 to 2 or something, and I know his skill level, then it doesn't bother me that much, I'll just replay. It is irritating losing to guys I used to rape, but meh, some of them have played so much, kudos to them.
Hehe, i know what you mean. Well, i'm kinda on a different level, and i never play duel, but still. I can usually tell from the first couple of frags/moves on a given day if i'm going to have a shitty time while gaming or not.
Sometimes though, you can power through that shit. Guess other, more consistent performers call that "warming up". Wish i knew what that's all about.
Im not lucky, i always get the worst spawn possible and always misstime item by 20 ms and my enemy takes it... i always lose fights and my enemy has maybe 10 hp... nothing I can do about it
I always rage but I've learnt to control it. (well, kinda)
My dad helped a lot he told me about some techniques to control your thoughts, these are my favourites:
Imagine that your thoughts are bubbles, and you have a needle and pop the FFFUUU thoughts
Imagine that your thoughts are a bunch of flowers, and you have the bad ones, put those into a vase, away, and keep the good ones together
Also counting to ten helps a lot, and breathing excersises, while you imagine that all the stuff you breath in is pure calmness, and the stuff you breath out is pure FFFUUU rage
If I'm starting to take the game somewhat seriously then I may rage yes but I will never say anything to my opponent(s), I'll keep it entirely to myself. Won't be visible in the chat but might be in my playstyle.
But TBH I don't rage that much in Quake, it's a skill based game with very little randomness/bollocks compared to some of the other games I play. I really mean that, in Quake I can only get angry over myself or possibly the lag/computer.
In a MMO like Age of Conan (which is a lot more skill based than other MMOs but still) I may hit my keyboard (or other things) over the total randomness and the people who think they beat you by skill when they have just played the game for billions of years never taking a break and got a 100 times better gear etc. (Not to mention the exploits that the very competent devs dunno how to fix)
When I'm talking shit etc it's usually because I'm in a good mood and just want to have a good laugh rather than just play the game.
So in games that I totally master like Jedi Academy (well, that's the only one to be fair), I'm always talking shit and playing great at the same time (with a couple of similar friends), so people on the servers we invade get really annoyed and it's just fucking hilarious to see them whine, call us names in horrible English and also try to chase us, only to ragequit eventually. We don't do that with beginners (pointless) but with people who consider themselves "pro" or just think they know a whole lot about the game.
I usually get much more frustrated at myself than any teammates or enemies.
If i shoot 35 lg in a situation and die, I rage at myself not being good enough to hit more in such an opportunity. If I shoot rockets and one only does splash, I rage at my aim being incompetent. If i walk into spam, I rage at myself being a total idiot. If I mis-time an item, I rage at my inability to do simple math.
Quake really hasn't been fun since I started QL and sorta moved on from CPM...
reminds me of my own problem, I might be hitting 35% lg and 50% rail, it still feels like I can't hit shit so I never actually move in at the appropriate time, if I ever do.
What really bugs me... Is I'll spec people who honestly cannot aim properly, and they'll hit 40 lg or something while being completely off the model.. Meanwhile I'm tracking "correctly" (I can hit upwards consistently of 50% xerp 0 on amphi) and I'll only hit 28-35% in ql when someone is ROCKET JUMPING or going up a fucking JUMP PAD.
And yeah, I'll feel like I'm missing every rail only to realize that I've shot 50-60% at the end of the game. Feels like I'm hitting everything 30-40%...
well that's probably placebo ( even though we can't find a reason ) but some people think that sub 30 actually hits less than +30 on lg with the antilag.
But anyway I'll hit 45% on 45ms vs complete scrubs who want to play me and I'll still feel like I can't hit shit.
I used to have such a terrible aim that I'm constantly freaking out about it .
I rage at my internet all the time. Getting outplayed I'm okay with, but getting yanked down on an easy jump where I've got oodles of momentum then midair I just suddenly fall straight down and my ping hits the low 100s for a second or 2, then I rage, start stabbing innocent children and starting fires.
Same with me, shitty internet is the only thing that makes me rage. I'll get spikes that give me a weird rubber band effect, it tries to keep me in the same place but if im near a ledge it flings me off the side. >:(
I just like playing with casuals cos they don't take the game too seriously, i don't get bothered when someone kills me or anything, in fact i find it funny. However, i don't like when someone does a good frag or a nice shot and takes a lot pride from it, as if they were feeding their ego, i don't get mad tho, each one has a perception of reality.
It's just a game, if i were getting frustrated i wouldn't play.