Map fucking rapes, needs to get picked up immediately.

+, for me is the best map so far :)

+++++++

ztn aero battle toxi furious
5 mappool for lan tourneys.

ye, this one should be good :)

see ya ztn . HI CONCRETE PALACE

Battleforged
Concrete Palace
Furious Heights
Hektik
Toxicity

If I registered on this site, I would [+] you

official id mappool for the next qcon+esl season 6 from today's pov?


meh, I always fall asleep during hektik matches

falls asleep during hektik matches lmao, wonder what you do during dm13 matches then.. die or something?

back and forth boom boom boom back and forth

I don't like that but I enjoyed dm13 matches until cypher +backed it to death :X

I don't know if you understand this argument of mine but how would you imagine a Rapha/Carmac ESL analysis of a regular Hektik match would look like?

hektik is like, rapha can't be 5 steps ahead, because the map only allows for two steps... i also find it kind of dull

Add aerowalk and I agree with you :P
(my favourite map by far and I never played q3 so it isn't overplayed at all for me :P)

poor cooller

please make it happen!

\o/

- Concrete Palace

This map won't be pld

This is exactly what QL needs, out with the "golden"oldies.
If i remember right Toxjq said he wont be interested in QL unless map pool gets revamped.

oO really?
he is exclusively playing the old maps in practises.

he laughs at the mappool played at tourneys, that doesnt mean he cant have fun owning noobs on ztn

-hek + aero

it may be "old" but it always delivers great games, even the "slow" matches on it are quite intense.

u read in my mind bro

100% agree

aero and ztn are still good to play, -concrete palace and -toxicity

Yes!

-battle
-conc
NOONE PLAYS IT !

Aerowalk, Hetkik, Toxicity, FuriousHeights, BloodRun
so -dm13 I guess... or ztn

ye, lets get rid of ztn shit shit shit shit shit map

This.

map is $$$$

looks fun map

Didn't tried it, but seems like having too much armor for such a small size. Have to play it 1st though, to tell for sure.

Nonetheless, very nice initiative. I will probably sign up too.

Signed up, anyone wanna practice?:)

Looks like a good map.

People need to realize that QL is as well-balanced as it could be, apart from minor tweaks. Reverting to OSP/CPMA with overpowered LG, slower rockets, will simply turn QL into Q3.

The +back problem lies in the map pool. First, we need to throw out the old maps, the maps that people have virtually memorized and are impossible to be creative on. Second, we need to put maps in the pool that cater to +forward and faster play. Maps that have less armor, are smaller, and where weapons are not readily available.

Hektik is a great example, and toxicity looks like another map with potential. Throw out DM13, bring in toxicity. Perhaps we can also replace ztn with t9. T7 ought to be replaced, ultimately. T4 and aerowalk are the better of the old school maps.

I agree with you.

We need to replace old maps indeed, but with something similar layout wise... if you look the level design of hektik/toxicity... they are just far from ztn/dm6/dm13/t7 layout. I just don't like maps like that, so I wish ztn go and make a new map :<.

T9 pls, map is so much more fun to watch than snoozefest T7.

Non +back map rotation should be:
Hub
Concrete Palace
Toxicity
House of Decay
Hektik

non +back map??? toxicty? woot??? xD

t2 with plasma replacing the chaingun and make the teleport exit jump harder would be sick

Awesome :D

$$$
needs more like these

are you kidding me ...
first concrete palace, now this, rofl

It's a cup. No one forces you to play it :x
Be happy that there is actually a cup before it gets implemented into a mappool of a big tournament (hi@ old bf +back shit and sound bugs).

come on, we played some bf, its not that bad anymore and now with the sound fixed, it will be even less +back'ish

I meant the old bf and honestly that version sucked compared to the new one. New bf is great and I would love to see it in the pro mappool ;).

a map this bad won't get implemented in an official mappool

This map is great and the top duel players I've talked to like it much better than some of the maps we have now (hi dismemberment and hektik).

well, dismemberment and hektik are shit as well :x

It's nice that people are having fun and all, but we must admit that map sucks badly. Will never be played @ competitive quake.
About the hitboxes.. whatever, my complaints won't change anything so i won't whine.

nice cup, perfect way to get people to test it out

btw am i alone with the feeling i described in the update post?
"could someone just stretch the whole map by 10%? feels so cramped"

no

The map is new to 95% of players and fun to play, it's all that matters

Are there any plans for some nifty broadcasting?
Would really like to get a first impression of duels on this map.

the free to play quakelive game will soon be pay to play :(

this map is awesome ;]

yeah, toxicity<3

Anyone got any demos of some "pro" duels on it? preferably one with a lot of spawn rapes =)?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1379014

Thanks but I meant QL ones. It obviously plays much differently in QL.

Begins In: 02:58

patience ;)

Will it be streamed?

i sure hope it will be. otherwise, what's the point?

sorry, but this map is shit. it fits to q4 more with this scattered boxes all around on which u have to jump to get powerups and plenty of green waters. corridors are still so narrow . this tournament will be the last where this map should be played

o wow boxes u have to navigate and jump around on to actually get to items instead of fucking rectangular rooms with no topography and no real movement required. what a fucking bummer ay?

lazy to watch demos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXiZkF5g6s
something, someone uploaded

weird whining about luck ... now thats new

sign up :o

ye it usualy is lag / warp / etc...

But seriously this pops guy should get a different hobby then to spec random games I play online and then upload the ones I lose + whine in....

I guess some people can not handle the truth :)

Does it ever happen that you don't whine after a a game you lost ?

:D

ye pretty often actually.

Yes, more often than you think.

it was not me... just found that, because I AM too lazy to watch demos and looked "toxicity ql" up on youtube.

no it's pops... he's angry at me for dunno what reason... keeps whining to me on irc / ingame etc :(
it's becomming a bit annoying...

thanks for sharing, but you should really increase your brightness/gamma when recording it for a vid
and what is the color of the crosshair pulse based on? o0

cg_crosshairhitstyle 1

coloring crosshair on hits
1-25 hp, 26-50, 51-75 76-100

wtf i totally missed that option, was always using 2, will try it out, thx

edit: well, thinking about it, its not really that usefull because the hitsound does already scale by dmg (you meant dmg and not hp, right?) and it doesnt look that great

i have both hitbeep 3 and crosshairhitstyle 1 enabled - helps a lot imho

what number killbeep is that? ;.

awesome, a fcking new map !

oh wait, it s just a nother quake 3 map, what is the problem with ID software...asking for new map and we got old Quake 3 map , so ID software, why did u stop quake 3...

What's wrong with an old map which was not overused?
What makes a fresh one better?

I don't get the point.

ignore the whiners, we are happy your map is in ql!

The point is that people like to bitch a lot more than they like to make sense. ;)

omg admins dont want to accept me ... like ppl cant invite me on that map...

no slovaks allowed =(

and what if 2 players dont have prem? and stuff like this delays cups and is always annoying, just get prem if you wan to play competitively, come on

Yeah, I don't understand the scabby bastards that don't fork out a few quid to support and play the game they want to play.

:(

where are all the pro signups? =(

i just soooooooooo much miss a shockrifle on this map!!! <3

anyway, nice map, just too many boxes around ..

what???

I want more boxes! Q2 style! :)

DUEL FUN CUP ON TOXICITY

FUN CUP

FUN FUN FUN FUN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0

What the...

lolololol


13 year old guys in a car :D


but i hate this map.. got raped hard today ^^



and: i have a new favoired song ..fun fun fun fun

love this map - most fun iv had in duel this cup ;)

really nice map to both play and spec, if its not included regularly i will be dissapoint

This map pawns. So many tricks, action packed, +forward, fun to spec.

map looks like a keeper :)

thanks to esl, shoutcasters/streamers, players for the great cup

I've been playing it quite a bit.

It's a bit cramped but lots of fun.

make it free.

get a job

scheduled to start in july =P

well then...

I wish you the best good sir.

870 CAD per month...ill need it :P

This map is awesome imo

Beats the shit out of hektik anyway

Now we need a replacement for the other snoozefest maps, ALL OF THEM, except aero, thats still cool

lets see

t9
aero
battleforged
toxicity
dm6

Dm6?

you nailed it

nice, but instead of bf i would give t7

meh t7 has brang out so many snore games, not sure really, some people are really fun to watch on it (stermy, fox, dahang)

others make me want to kill myself, cooller rapha etc turn it into a hockey score

hektik#2

tbh honest zhu vs Kronic was far more entertaining than noctis vs fazz to watch.
It didn't seems that fazz had played a lot of match on this map though.

I'm looking forward to see this one in the mappool.

best map iv ever played, would be quite happy if they made QL a 1map pool and this was the map

i think it would be somewhat over the top removing ALL the slower +backish maps and replacing them with a map pool consisting only those close combat ultra fast high frag count badass mofo maps.

a good balance should be the goal.

close combat ultra fast high frag count badass mofo maps.

word.

Balance is only reasonable between things, all of which are desired, but impossible to attain at the same time. Slow +back maps are not desired at all and should be eliminated.

Thanks for the VODs. I see a lot potential there..

love this map. And also, just because this is a fast paced map why does people compare it to be like hektik? This map is so much better than hektik to even begin with.. I dont wanna go into all these stuffs though so not gonna go further.

I dont think they are much the same besides the fast paced part.

No demos? =(

Well, I can provide you with some demos from my pov:

round 1 default win
round 2 vs uashadow - lost - not so good - http://bit.ly/hHGQX5
round 3 default win
round 4 vs Luke - win (comeback from negative score) - http://bit.ly/f6cFxK
round 5 vs Jaops - win (comeback from negative score, 2 overtimes) - http://bit.ly/hO7sLH
round 6 vs uashadow - lost - hmpf - http://bit.ly/gFb6es

Maybe the comeback maps are somehow interesting, especially round 5 with 2 overtimes, on how to play when out of control and maybe some positional play too. Sadly I didn´t manage it to convert this knowledge to my last round vs uashadow. His pov should be found on an archived stream from cyberfight.ru.

I hope that´s alright... Besides of that, just spec some random public matches, sometimes you have luck and can find noctis, spartie or some other very good players practicing ;)

Cheers mate.