England aren't going to win so it doesn't matter.

Hart
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - A. Cole
Lennon - Lampard - Barry - Gerrard
J. Cole
Rooney

Warnock is only in the squad as a backup to A. Cole, so he's got a very slim chance of playing and if Ferdinand and King pickup injuries (quite likely amirite?) then Upson is needed.

Lennon and Wright-Phillips are going to flop massively, neither had any affect against Japan or Mexico so I really can't see that changing.

Defoe isn't anywhere near good enough, Heskey is useless and old but oh well, when the alternatives are Bent, C. Cole and K. Davies(?)... (Since apparently you can't put Walcott up front despite being Defoe with 10x the pace).

England showed how inept they were against Mexico and Japan, I wouldn't get your hopes up English fans.

GK: Hart (rest suck)

i lol'ed.

british male pr0n stars ?

nice!

i was just laughing at english goalies tho. :)

What about them?

They're bad?

Hart is excellent for a young keeper, close in quality to Adler/Neuer and has been by far and away the best keeper in the PL this season (So better than Cech, Reina, VDS).

Really who has good experienced goalkeepers bar Spain, Brazil and Italy?

Germany, mate. Three of them.
You could argue that Neuer has no international experience, but he makes that up with raw talent. Sir Alex wants him for a reason.
Butt went into the CL-Final this year and played in another one with Leverkusen. ( over 60 CL games, 12 EL games, 363 bundesliga games)
Tim Wiese is really good and experienced as well.

And what exactly makes Julio Cesar exceptional? He's nowhere near Casillas and Buffon imo.

He doesn't need to be near Casillas and Buffon is miles ahead of the Spaniard even :P

And while Wiese and Butt are decent, they are by no means special. James is actually pretty good, though old now and Green is at least decent.

Hart is in a similar boat to Neuer in terms of raw talent, he's just got less experience.

Wiese is very special. He's like Jens, but not as bright. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_Nm5FRLC4

He has the hair pretty :D

Jens is irreplaceable!!!!!!!!

Butt is awesome at penalties, just for that it's worth taking him in 3rd slot.

Seaman best at penalties, shame he's old :(

did Seaman shoot penalties, too?
Cause Butt has 26 goals or so, just from the teams that did let him shoot them.

For defending against them Enke would have been best, 2nd best all-time quota for the Bundesliga. RIP :(

Actually he did take them once or twice against Man Utd, think Scheimical saved it though :(

>and Buffon is miles ahead of the Spaniard even :P

Not really.

Buffon was clearly the #1 in the past, but he's not so strong since a couple of years ago. Age doesn't forgive. I rate them #1 Julio Cesar, #2 Casillas... and I'm not even sure Buffon makes #3. Julio Cesar has been really amazing this season.

Cesar has been great, yes, but Buffon started the season really well before his injury and when he eventually returned he was excellent too.

Sadly, Juventus and Italy are extremely weak at the moment.

I will never put my money on Italy not winning, tho. Just because... y'know :P

I dunno, they're going to struggle this year I think, just like the Euros.

i think this year england has a very good chance to win the title. if not this time then never!

The England youth teams are way better than the youth teams that produced this crop of no hopers. Some genuinely good players.

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/945391/8bfe81...clame.html

heskey should not be going, amazed he was picked ahead of bent
carragher can fuck right off to, can't stand the scouse cunt. would much rather have dawson over him any day.
for me our main weaknesses are in goal and upfront. none of our keepers are close to world class, and are all very prone to atleast a couple of big mistakes a match. if rooney gets injured, who do we have? heskey and defoe? doesn't exactly strike fear in to the hearts of world class defences now does it.
i'd like to see a 4 5 1 with gerrard being pushed the furthest forward just behind rooney. 'ey ho.

Hesky and Crouch actually wouldn't be a bad combination. Hesky has never been a goal scorer. He creates the opportunities and Crouch will always be there to claim them

agreed that heskey is decent at holding up the ball and creating chances but still think we'd benefit more form a more out and out striker, as rooney drops back enough as it is

Dawson can't play fullback, Carragher can, that's the only reason he got in the squad as England literally have no other right fullbacks.

if rooney gets injured, who do we have? heskey and defoe? doesn't exactly strike fear in to the hearts of world class defences now does it.

This is why not taking Walcott but picking Lennon and SWP is ridiculous. Walcott scares opponents into sitting deep and not committing players forward, Lennon and SWP don't scare anybody.

Heskey shouldn't be going, but neither should Bent... ;)

Walcott is an incredibly average player, the dictionary definition of one trick pony. He's fast - woah - what else? He can cross to save his life, struggles to take his man & can't cut inside - a skill which at least both SWP & Lennon posses - Lennon especially, who on his day is as good as anyone. You've also the added bonus of the Spurs link with Lennon / Crouch / Defoe.

I basically agree with Dird's team though if Barry gets fit I'd drop Lennon - Milner is a fantastic player & definitely should start. We've an incredibly inspiring attack (the 3 'other' strikers aside) & our strength especially comes down the wings. We've fantastic attacking full backs & great speed down both flanks. We should aim to outscore teams 'attack, attack - attack attack attack'

You think England's attack is "inspiring" and that they have strength down the wings?

You've got to be joking here, A. Cole/J. Cole/Rooney aside, Englands attacking threat is distinctly average, which is why they struggle to create chances against Mexico and Japan (what was it, 1 corner, 1 offside corner, 1 lucky smash, and 2 own goals?).

If England are going to aim to outscore teams with attack, attack, attack then they are going to get dismantled by any team with remotely competent defenders and semi-decent attackers. They can't even keep possession of the ball long enough to keep pressure on the opponents.



Capello should have picked Lennon, Walcott and A.Johnson and not bothered with SWP and Defoe but honestly, Capello is still trying to work out how to setup the formation and roles in the team, so it's all irrelevant as England are going nowhere.

Walcott played shite in all the games recently.

Good on Fabio for ignoring the press and putting in who played good.

Lennon/Wright-Phillips > Walcott anyday

haha fair play, i'm not a big bent fan :D, just the lesser of two evils. carragher will have to (if given the chance) have an amazing few games to swin me 'round tho!

Wright-phillips, Lennon, Rooney and Milner need frequent picks

That is all

who cares,its football


now lets talk about cricket

I must commend your persistence for a terribly wrong (and quite creative at that) use of the comma in every single one of your posts. Very impressive.

that how i roll

:p

england is shit anyway

Hart is much better than James and Green. He must have won brum 20 points on his own last season (sadly). Doesn't matter anyway, our defence is completely shit. Firstly, Ferdinand, who is now injured anyway, is easily the most overrated defender in the world. In fact, I very rarely see him make a tackle.

Carragher - too slow, had a very poor season.
Johnson - can't defend.
Terry - poor season as well, but he's really our only hope at centre back.
Cole - can't complain, great player. Shame he's such a cunt.
King - gets turned too easily, not good enough for England I'm afraid, great player for Spurs though.
Warnock - Also not good enough for England.
Upson - shittest player in our squad by far, had a terrible season to go with it.

why sadly? vile fan or dingle?

Stoke. How dare you even suggest that I could be a dingle. :O

stoke? laff
although i used to love that little themepark in stoke-on-trent $

Alton Towers? Pretty sweet place to live really, drayton manor, v festival, glasonbury, waterworld all within walking distance. Even if it is a shithole.

Foster could get you relegated next year by the way. Happy days!

i find that very unlikely...we'll be sending you down though
boing! boing!

We won't be going down for a good few years yet. Come 2013 we could be pushing for Europe while everyone else struggles financially. (you're fucked by the way)

Can't believe we got £2.5 million for him in total, he didn't even play a game for us.

how are we fucked?

Your owner can't pay off his debts, nevermind the interest. The people he owes money to will probably take over the club if he doesn't start to pay them soon. You're paying stupid wages, and paying stupid transfer fees to players who really aren't that good. This is exactly what happened to Pompey in the early stages as well. You're a pompey waiting to happen. Thank god for Sir Peter Coates.

apparently you missed the boing boing

Yeah I was wondering about that, thought you were just mental. \o/

Fair enough, you're not fucked at all. I'd wish you good luck for this year but... nah. You might stay up now you haven't got a complete tool of a manager.

EDIT - Thanks in advance for the 6 points this year by the way.

EDIT2 - Please hurry up and take Beattie off our wage bill.

dream on
youll be taking 1 point when youre at home & thats it

We always beat West Brom. Always. At the most you'll get a draw, if you try and play "sexy football" next year you'll go straight back down. I find it hard to dislike West Brazil to be honest, you're like a little puppy, you just offer us too much.

I wouldn't be so certain about that, things can change quickly. All it takes are a few bad home performances and the confidence will go, more losses and you're in for a relegation fight.

Stoke's away form is too dire to cope with any loss of home form.

That said, Wigan/WBA/Blackpool will probably go down.

Our away form was superb last season mate.
http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/away.html

Up until the Chelsea game we were the only team in the premiership that had not lost an away game in 2010. Much better than last season.

Even if we don't sign any better players this year we'll still stay up, because we are the 12th man.

The problem is draws don't keep teams up, so if the home form did drop, you'd be right in there.

Points are points, and 95% of the time 38 points would keep a team up. Anyway we won't get relegated now, as long as we keep hold of certain players it'll be 2 more mid table finishes until everyone else can't afford players and we can, then it's Europe for us. And bye -bye to the shit, arseholes, liverfool.

No, it's not as easy as that, as so many teams prove season upon season. Just look what happened to Charlton.

Draws are points, but those draws you got one season can easily turn into losses the next, regardless of not selling players, several teams will be stronger next season for a start.

No more Pompey, Hull and Burnley who were all dire etc.

Several teams won't be stronger. Of course there's Blackpool, who will go down if they continue to play good football with shit players, it's suicide in the prem. Just look at West Brom. Then as I've just said, West Brom the official yo-yo team of the premiership. And finally Newcastle, who won't be able to sign any decent players. I get what you're saying though, but our defense is solid as fuck, now all we need is a goalscorer. (and a new right winger, playmaker, targetman, then we're sorted) :p

I think Blackpool and the Albion are dead certs to go down, then again, so were Wolves if we're honest...

I think Newcastle are just about good enough to survive so I'd make the final spot between (In order of likeliness):
- Wigan
- Wolves
- Stoke
- West Ham

Grant is an excellent manager, should be a huge improvement over Zola and who knows what will happen at Wigan.

Why are we likely to go down? And why are Newcastle good enough to stay up? Grant has been brought in to sell in my opinion, it's what he's good at. Saying that I hope Wigan go down, they don't even belong in the Championship never mind the top flight of English football.

Clubs which have no fans can fuck off innit :E

why is cole a cunt and terry isn't?

RACISM!!

because terrys wife is not a pop star

Centre backs tackling?

They generally have the lowest average amount of tackles bar the goalkeepers and possibly strikers.

Fullbacks and Central Midfielders are the players who tackle. Centre Backs use their strength to ease players off the ball.

Terry - a cunt

You all are missing two main points.

Englands main keeper will be James, not Hart and they will play with two forwards.

There was even speculation that if Barry isin't fit for the group stage they will play only with 3 defenders, Johnson and Cashley as wingers running their asses of.

We'd get ripped apart playing like that. James is a clown, as is Green.

4-5-1 with Gerrard just behind Rooney would be the best option. It's either that or Rooney and Heskey up top.

cole off rooney

Or that. Cole always seems to play better when coming off the bench for England.

Gerrard needs to be as far away from the centre of the pitch as is possible. His obsession with over ambitious passes and run+dive prevent England from doing anything otherwise.

It's the same for Liverpool really and why they are incapable of performing well if he's playing crap.

dude honestly.. you guys have only one star, which is: fabio capello. besides your squad SUCKS AT ALL! hhaahhahahah

With Brazil's high standards, your squad is pretty dire at the moment to to be fair mate. Same as England, a bunch of overrated players. And I have no idea what's up with your manager either, is he mental or what?

Until the likes of Neymar develop I can't see you winning a World Cup.

dude, you dont understand hahahahaha we have a squad to win, not to make a presentation of soccer, neither ronaldinho, adriano, have showed why they should be capped. you foreigners think soccer is ability, skills etc. we latins think soccer is based on results. see italy.. they had a pretty crappy team last world cup, who won? :) the only chance england has is because of capello, nothing less, nothing more.

What's soccer? Sorry I think we're talking about something different here, maybe you're on about some kind of crappy board game or something, I don't know. And I'm not sure if you know by now, but Brazil have always been known for their ability and skill, and that's why you've won so many games/ world cups.

of course, we have that.. but not only that.. :) when we have beaten you in 2002? did we dribbled and made a show? when we have beaten turkey in 2002 ? when we have beaten italy in 94(by the way, in the penalties) dude.. we have ability, skills etc.. but NOT ONLY that.. see spain.. nederlands, they have skills.. but they dont have balls.

You say that as if other teams have never won the world cup? By the way, you beat us in 2002 because David Seaman suddenly turned into a shit keeper for a few seconds. No doubt you would have beat us on penalties anyway mind.

P.S. Rivaldo is a cunt.

you see? hahaaha you guys cant see the point hahaahha and im glad for that. the winner will be the winner cuz they have balls, even the hand of god by maradona, but what he did while england was dominating the game, dribbling half team and scoring the goal by himself, it shows what im talking about, england have balls, but no ability at all.. its unbelievable you guys have someone like crouch in the squad.. i have never seen anybody like him in my life hahahahahahahaha hail crouch! (by the way, ronaldinho`s goal was pure lucky, but the lucky is always on the winner`s side, _isnt it? :))

edit: isnt it

We lack technique, but not ability. That's just a stupid thing to say. Crouch? What's wrong with Crouch? His goal scoring record for England is very good and he gets the best out of Rooney.

noo... you guys have huge technique, ability in my opinion is: dribble, balance, ball control, killing balls(kill ball i forgot), vision of the field. technique is: through ball, long shot, short pass etc etc(because THIS you can train, but ability you born with)

best comment of the day: crouch? whats wrong with crouch?

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH whats wrong, i mean, everything is wrong, i dont understand the question. ask him to play i dunno, basketball or .. dunno as a goaly he`d be better tho, if you guys have NO ability, imagine CROUCH...(no i cant imagine, i have to watch england`s game to see it)

You've probably never seen Crouch play for England obviously. He'll probably score more goals than Rooney, in fact I doubt Rooney will even score in the world cup. Not everyone has a team full of midgets like Spain and Brazil.

lol?

spain hasnt, thats the point where just a few people understand, just because a bunch of good CENTER midfields. look at the rest of the team(i respect casillas and villa, and thats it, apart of the center midfields)

lol?

Jeasus Navas - 5"7 David Silva - 5"7 ... Point is, just because someone is extremely tall doesn't mean they're a bad player.

same as all the time i tried to explain, it isnt about his statue, it is about his ABILITY. i know many good tall players dude.. lets see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLnb_9Y8FK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rox4WFn9flg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iI8iPJA_k (by the way, i stopped watching when he made the bike against some team which i dont know..)

i just capped a few of some common brazilian players which arent that common of being tall and etc.. try even batistuta, crespo, palermo whatever.. even amauri is much better than this... dunno.. he seems more a traffic light post than a person hahahaha good luck in the world cup!

Technique is the players "method" of controlling the movement of the ball. So that would include anything that involves the body touching the ball, including dribbling.

Nobody is born with any of that, it's all trained and learned from an early age.

Same goes for vision (Knowledge/Tactical Understanding) but not for "balance" per se, which is a physical attribute.

dude, the point isnt that somebody has been born with, is how somebody learn from, yes from a point view you`re right, but for example.. most of the latin players start playing in futsal, do you know what is that? try to find robinho`s teenage videos of football, ronaldinho, ronaldo etc etc, riquelme... all these players started playing at futsal as well... so by percentage i believe when something should be given by god(im not really religious, but ronaldinho`s ability is something unbelievable, even for any brazilian pro football player).

Not only Latin teams have great technique you know.

well i know , but i meant in general. i respect also slav teams.. dunno as a team.. is really rare for me, i respect more the individuals than a team.. if i understood what you meant

What's wrong with Crouch? He pulled some guy's hair to score a goal with his header last Eurocup (or it was World Cup).
Now I know, football isn't all fair anymore, but the way it looked to me was just attrocious.
Fuck Crouch, I hope someone kicks him in the knee and injures him.
Also, Fuck England, I hope they lose as hard as Italy and France. And Germany. And Denmark and Japan. And all other teams.
Go Netherlands.

anyway i was going to post something like: im not going to reply.

anyway, i only respect two nation squads in my life,
1- nederlands(after 94 and 98, how could i woudlnt?)
2- uruguay(because they believe when they play brazil they are playing the 1950s final, so they play like the last game ever in their life even tho.. any nation plays like this against us but.. THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN hahahaha so it is really damn hard, they fight for anything, throw win, freekick, passing, anything.. you cant imagine..)
i actually appreciate your country, but after living with a belgian(haha i know you gonna say something about it) he told me that nederlands has a problem when it comes to brains(like players`s mentality etc) and well i dunno i hope you can answer me, because i always felt that the only nation in the world that could play something like brazil was nederlands, "attractive", aggressive and dominating at the same time.. and we also have the same problem with our defense, we always have the best strikers, midfield etc etc ever.. when it comes to defense.. hahahaha and we always have a good goaly.. isnt it funny? hahaha well i hope nederlands is going to rape everyone`s asses in the world cup and if we play eachother in the final i`d be glad to watch it. by the way nothing related(if you esr guys read it before, i also have dutch background).

You know we most likely get lazy and fuck it up .....

I think, so long as your defence doesn't make big mistakes and RvP stays fit you could win.

About the only team with an attack that could break any team down.

well we just lost robben for the world cup :/

Not too surprising since most of our players are made of glass. Kind of miraculous how he managed to go nearly a entire season at Bayern without injury.

And we are not going to win anyway, because we haven't got the depth like some other countries. But thats okay. I just hope we play some nice games, Thats what will be remembered anyway. Nobody cares about some soulless ultra defensive team one nilling itself to the world cup.

robben :(/

You've got more attacking depth than anyone though, you can deal with losing Robben.

Also, that's not strictly true, the people who don't care about football remember the winners no matter how poor or boring they were :P

Don't worry, while England struggle you can be enjoying some powerful counter-attacks ripping Portugal/Ivory Coast to shreds.

Gotta laugh at people who think this is a weak/boring Brazil team because shitty, lazy, alcoholic Ronaldinho and manic-depressive party boy Adriano didn't make the squad.

i know dude and most of the foreigners dont understand it! hahahahahahaha they havent being caped because the SUCKED hahaha simply like that! hahahahaha dude i think.. robinho is gonna rock in this world cup.. i havent never seen him so excited and so dedicated.. dude.. try to find santos`s best moments of this year dude.. dude.. brazilian cup(which gives a spot to the libertadores(like your uefa champions)) santos lost against gremio, like 3x1 in the first leg.. santos needed to score two or more... now.. im gonna show you.. what a young guy called: GANSO and ROBINHO did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LReEyclVyI

dude it was semifinals :0 dude.. real madrid and milan are trying to sign ganso.. hahahah like 60 million euro or something hahaha

our new talented players: neymar, ganso, phillipe(or just felipe i dont know) coutinho, alex teixeira..

just this new santos dude.. they have like.. 6 7 new talented players dude.. which like.. its just unbelievable.. if any european team wants to buy good players.. they have to follow flamengo, santos, internacional hahaha simply... like that hahaha

http://sportv.globo.com/videos/v/clipe-grande...tos/page/6 (neymar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0RXSNTeco (ganso)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2DByWQCpug (2010, ganso)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqm43U0lyAM (hernanes)

its so funny.. when someone says in anywhere (ah but if any brazilian team plays any european team they gonna loose in the world championship for clubs) .. hum.. really? look at the graphics :D hahaha

Neymar and Ganso are quality but they aren't "Europe ready" yet and won't sell for 60m :P

Wellington Silva is also an excellent Brazilian young player.

That Wellington from TSG Hoffenheim in Germany? He didn't make it last Season. Played 2 x 10mins afaik.
They also have Maicosuel. He did slightly better.

This guy, super fast, good skills, confident and has a decent finish.

dude, yes you are right by a pointview but the only reason i think they are ready is because they learn so fast, these two i remark

They look like they weigh 2st though man :D

didnt understand what you said :0

They look like they weigh about 10 kilograms, they aren't physically ready to tear up Europe.

ah ... no dude if is about it.. when they get to europe they start a special training over there.. for sure.. like what ronaldo did, ronaldinho.. everyone from brazil when has this kinda stereotype they get a special training etc, suplements(i dont know this word in english :0)

haha ferdinand cant play now, raped. edit 23 to 22.

no...he gets replaced by dawson = 23

he wasnt in my 23 anyways so im happy

One more injury away from Ryan Shawcross being called up. :)

where the bloody 'ell 'ave you been muggins!

College mate. I'll be back in a week or so when I finish my exams (don't have a clue when they are though).
Congrats on getting promoted :P

cheers mate :D alot of bitter swindon around so it seems!
and leeds seem to have maintained their high and mighty mentality :D
we'll see ye in a couple of seasons! (one way or another)

ENGERLAAAAND

n1. I was expecting Terry to take the queen and say thanks.

wut happened to that pretty boy metro-sexual who came to the usa so he and his wife could be even more famous?

he tripped over his own shoelaces and probably tore hist abductor digiti minimi.

Is it true that King and Upson have both missed training? You should have taken Shawcross you muppet!

king doesnt train cos of his legs so its normal...upson is shit so it doesnt matter

Anyone watch the game just? Notice how much better Rooney plays with Heskey. With them two up top we could go quite far.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Rooney was poor. But that's only because he kept dropping back again like he always does for England, shame really because he played great with Heskey in the warm up game.

:)))))))))))))))))))))))

GK: Hart (rest suck)

*smirk*

LOL squad