holowchik = kgb

not enough frags :(

nice description btw, nodm9 is only similar to dm13

It's a shit version of it for idiots who can't actually use their brain (e.g. the hub3aeroq3 generation). Just look at how you can spam straight into YA/MH for example and just stand there topping up your rockets, you could literally trap some guy in there for 15 mins if they didn't haveRL (To RJ from MH).

you're wrong.

Watch some skilled players (e.g. Pele/unkind/cooller/death/polos etc) play q3dm13 then watch pro-nodm9. It just can't compete, there is less health and armour the SG/GL are in the wrong place (And for no apparent effective reason all it seems to do is mean nobody ever picks up the GL....)

I like it. It's more streamlined and the fact you can shoot up through the holes in the bridge is a nice addition. It means you can better defend yourself from the bottom with rockets just like in the old days with through-floor. Sure, there are also some bad things, but overall it's pretty much as good as the old one I think, if not better (I don't like the teleport area though).

Bring back q3dm13 and pro-T4...this hub3 and nodm9 nonsense has got to stop.

get rid of the spawn rape

might aswell bring E1M2 back. jesus, move on, if ur a good dueller u can play any map, not just those that uve pld for years and years...;

that's true but it's about which map is better/more challenging to play/more fun to play and watch

nodm9 = watered down version of dm13
hub3aeroq3 = boring spam !

ya never liked aerowalk in vq3 unless i'm watching czm. funny its one of the best maps in cpm and from what i hear... in qw as well.

yep, it suits those games, and vq3. isnt that hard to understand for me :) bring back more open maps with less teles for vq3